Trials For Parents Who Chose Faith Over Medicine

Well, uh, yeah? I mean, if you never fed your kid you'd go the fuck to jail, and your religious rights as a Breatharian wouldn't be relevant in the least. "Try to keep your kid from dying" is pretty much #1 on the list of basic parental responsibilities.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Paco takin' God to the mat ITT

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There's nowhere I can't reach.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

There are already examples in place in US law that make religious practice less than 100% protected. Just ask the Rastafarians.

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The word "rational" does not mean what you appear to think it means

hint: someone is not rational simply because they have a rationale

the words are similar-looking but different

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Ness the Mess

Rational means according to reason (according to Dictionary.com).

Reason means having a basis or cause.

Having reason is not the same as having a reason

English is complicated like that

For example, children possess many reasons for their behavior (want toys, hate girls, etc) but they are not considered to possess reason because they are not rational actors in the way that adults are.

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Seriously? The old "Einstein believed in god so therefore hurrrr" saw?

Look, this isn't about some pogrom against the world's faithful. It's about a couple of idiots who think it's totally acceptable for their children to die, and you're defending that with a bunch of mealy-mouthed WELL GOSH YOU DON'T KNOW THEY COULD BE RIGHT. No, they could NOT be right. Demonstrably. Because they possessed a belief that prayer would heal. Which it did not. They were wrong. Objectively. The objective fact that prayer don't do shit against diabetes is actually one of those no-duh longtime scientific facts. It's not like this was a secret from them.

As much as you might like to believe that we're all atheists because we think you're a cunt, we aren't.

We just think you're a cunt, independent of our individual faiths.

You depress me, because my initial impression was that you were some confused kid but it's obvious now you're just one of a long line of talking-point bullshitters through the ages.

FELIPE NO

"It sure is bad when people kill their children through imbecilic neglect."

"Humanist!"

"what."

The world we perceive with our senses may not be the entirety of the world, certainly. But it seems sensible to prioritize that which we know to exist over that which we think might maybe exist. There is a possibility that every lottery ticket can be a winner, but it is an incredibly distant possibility. If someone spent their entire paycheck on lottery tickets in the belief that ONE OF THEM WILL FOR SURE BE A WINNER! you would think him an idiot. And rightfully so.

And that's what these people have done. Played the lottery. With a child's life. And you're defending this behavior.

You see why we're treating you with contempt, yes?

Furthermore: Einstein was a fairly crappy scientist as they go. He falsified several results to make them match his own biases. He was an excellent mathematician but I don't feel we should extend him much respect beyond that.

How ya doing, buddy?

only wvlf could find the one not-flaw in Ness' argument

good job, wvlf

Jam it back in, in the dark.