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Well, I can't argue the legality of it but it seems kind of predictable that an anti-smoking group wouldn't want to hire smokers. I mean, you wouldn't expect the AA to hire a bartender.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

I'm all for anti-smoking laws. Of every kind. I'm the guy who would ban all sale of cigarette everywhere, and ban smoking... everywhere.

How's the war against Eurasia coming along, Big Brother?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

The only reason that smoking is still around is because it's embedded in the country economically

Are you even faintly serious?

Yes, nobody outside the United States has ever touched a cigarette in their lives.

Yes, banning an addictive drug would, in fact, actually force people to stop taking it. That always works. A black market definitely wouldn't spring up.

Yes, you can resolve a double standard by curtailing liberty even further.

Come on, man. Think. The whole notion that something should be banned because you can hurt yourself by doing it is absurdist. How the hell do you think the automobile industry stays in business?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Gechmir

Then again, I'm biased; I actually LIKE the smell of cigarette smoke

Well, for one thing, it's not a single universal smell. It comes down to the quality and the brand and all that. If the smokers you know are all rockin' cheapshit Kools they got down at the bodega then yeah, that's not so pleasant. "Smokers" don't smell bad, stupid people pinching their pennies smell bad. And they do that without any help from their cigarettes, because they've been wearing the same suit 6 days in a row to save on dry-cleaning.

It's just like beer, really; people who don't know much about it will say oh, I don't drink beer, it tastes awful. Yeah, because you're drinking awful beer!

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Your children will never know their grandparents because your children don't exist and never will because chicks don't dig whiny assholes that like to tell other people what to do.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

But I'm mainly against it because of the horrible health repercussions, both on the user and on anyone who is around them often.

Are you going to address the automotive exhaust parallel anytime in the next week, you dodgy cunt?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Bradylama

It makes more sense when you frame it in the context of labor rights. People who work at McDonald's aren't forced to eat the food, but if you work in a bar you are pretty much forced to inhale all that second hand smoke.

Maybe this is a little flip but the solution might be "don't work in a bar" as opposed to "use the force of law to convert all bars into something that suits you better".

Of course solution A comes into play anyway when the original clientele abandons the bar, ha ha

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

But you can improve the safety of the loom without directly impacting the quality of the end product. So, you know, nice analogy there.

ITT: telephone linemen complain about dangerous heights, have all telephone poles reduced to 3' high maximum

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

The primary function of a bar is to serve drinks, not cigarettes.

Except that multiple examples of bars suffering massive loss of business due to smoking bans have been posted in this very thread, which would tend to indicate that allowing smoking is in fact a significant part of a bar's business model. Running a successful business is somewhat more complex than just putting your goods in a basket and holding out your palm for the money. A place that merely "serves liquor" isn't necessarily a bar. Sometimes it's just a liquor store. Nobody is saying people should be allowed to smoke in a liquor store, because that would be silly. Hell, I wouldn't even smoke in a smokes shop. There are distinctions here.

It's like saying that the function of a grocery store is to sell food, not to provide carts or cashiering services. This is true! A grocery store with no carts or customer service is still a grocery store. It's just not a very successful one, generally.

What a bar produces is entertainment, you nudnik

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I concur. We definitely should not round people up and force them to work in dangerous places. I will shut down my forced-labor smoke inhalation camps immediately.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

No, but "that's the way it has to be if we want the business to flourish" is.

It's pretty fuckin' hot in a steel mill. You run a significant risk of heat prostration on a daily basis. You could theoretically run a steel mill at a cool, refreshing 70 degrees F, but I don't expect a lot of steel would get produced that way.

I'm not sure why this line has to be drawn in the sand. Certain professions have certain expectations of risk. It's like saying that we need to ban sick people from hospitals to make sure none of the poor poor doctors catch anything from them.

How ya doing, buddy?

I'm just saying it's wildly absurd to put a constraint on the common liberty for the sake of the health of a handful of individuals.

Liberty, Security, deserve neither, lose both, etc, etc

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Frank's Bank

I'm too drunk to care.

I vote this becomes Frank's permanent unchangeable usertitle

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

So, when you decided to reply to this thread, did you take a moment to look at the rest of the thread's posts? In particular, did you notice the sort of reception another poster got when he espoused the sort of attitude you're promoting?

A pool hall should be full of smoke. Smoke, beer, and salty snacks. If people wanted to be healthy they'd go and play some fucking tennis. But no, you have to be that rarest creature: the health-conscious billiards enthusiast. Who's inconveniencing who, exactly?

I was speaking idiomatically.