lincoln, a great man?

I really don't know why anyone would expect Lincoln to be a saint. You don't reach the office of the presidency by compromising and being nice to everyone. The whole "omg lincoln was a human being with faults" meme is just the product of an over-exaggerated hostile reaction to modern Republicans, which have about as much in common with the party of Lincoln's day as a poodle has in common with a fire axe. To call Lincoln the "worst president ever" betrays an absurd ignorance of the dire straits both nations would have rapidly found themselves in had the secession been permanent.

Please, don't use Harry Turtledove as a meaningful reference work. It makes me to cry.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Do you have a reference for your AIDS assistance claim? Even if true, it doesn't prove much. A condom costs a quarter, an "abstinence education" costs significantly more but that doesn't make it more effective.

Also, bragging about "home ownership" in the middle of a loan crisis is a little disingenuous. How many of these people will actually get to keep their homes?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Bradylama

So hey, I'm wondering what George Bush not actually doing much to help black people has to do with this thread.

Well, a Republican found the thread

So, inevitably

The thread was hijacked into discussion of why we should love the President

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.