The Happening

M.Night makes a certain sort of movie. If you like his movies, youll like this movie. If you dont like his movies, you wont like it. It isn't rocket science.

It is effectively like coming out of a fancy restaurant and complaining you didn't like the escargot, despite the fact that you never like escargot.

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he didnt go so much for the big twist this time. We are led to believe that the happening is caused by a neurotransmitter released by plants, causing disorientation and a lack of self preservation in humans. Its reminds me very much of the effect of Cordyceps on ants, or the effect of a certain type of parasitic flatworm on snails.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

my comment wasnt targeted at any one in specific.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

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my absolute favorite person. Sass sass sass. You with all your assumptions and stuff.

If you like some of his movies, and dislike some of his movies, then you might like or dislike this one.
if you are a fan of his, then you will probably like this movie.
if you arent a fan of his, then you probably wont.

there are plenty of people out there, who will watch every movie by a director or a writer, and complain how they didnt like any of them; which begs the question... why do you keep watching them.

now, continue with all your assumptions. it is the very height of the reason why i never stay for more than a few posts at a time. Everything has to be aggressive, and an assumption, and a personal attack. Gotta love bigotry, and based on an assumption no less. Fantastic, can it be better?

if youll notice, i didnt even give my personal opinion of M.Night's latest 'work'. Nor did i give any defense for any opinion either way, except stating the obvious which many movie goers don't seem to get. This doesnt stop you from assuming, does it? Go on, assume away, it does seem what you like to do.

Btw, I think escargot is terrible. It's flavor reminds me of when I chewed through a ball-point pen by accident.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Your jumping to conclusions, assumptions, and taking absolutely everything personal again. This sort of thing makes you very unpleasant to carry out any sort of communication with.

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If you like some of his movies, and dislike some of his movies, then you might like or dislike this one.

If a director continues to disappoint me, I dont keep seeing their movies. For movies, people seem to to think differently.

For me, I find the mass majority of speilberg's work overrated. I dont see a movie directed by him, unless it looks really really good to me. In most movies, I find his directing to be the height of directing just like everyone else. He has directed a few movies very well, but typically, I dont care for his style. I know he has the ability, but the he normally chooses to direct in a way I find massively over rated. But thats my opinion, and I know everyone has their own opinions, and thats fine. My opinion helps me not feel dissatisfied by spending my night and my money on movies I generally will not be impressed by.

Look at Krel's posts. He says that he knew it was going to be bad, and it sounds like he doesnt like M.Night, or the movies he makes in general. So, why did he go see the movie? And why is he so upset about something he knew was going to suck.

I'm going to stab myself, right now, and I know its going to hurt.
It really hurt, now I'm pissed off.

I hate this author, I'm going to read his book, I bet its going to suck.
It sucked, I'm angry.

Like every other episode I've watched, I found spongebob today a total waste of my time. I'm angry.

In any example, you can come up, doesn't seem to make sense, unless perhaps its an obligation, but seeing a movie isn't an obligation. If you know your not going to like it, why subject yourself to it? And then, you get pissed off because you knew you weren't going to like it? Of course, this doesnt apply to you, since you were in the same boat I was going in. I was merely pointing it out because so many people seem to miss the fact.

For your information, I too, like some of his movies, and dislike some of his movies. So, I saw it, knowing I might or might not like it. If I didn't like any of his work, I wouldn't have bothered seeing it. This movie entertained me, but I did not feel it was a strong movie, I think he could of done much better.

As for my analogy, I was under the impression that most people dislike escargot. Ive always considered it an acquired taste. I used this for the analogy since most the complaints i've heard about the movie start off with 'M.Night sucks, all his movies suck, I knew this was going to suck.' This sort of argument makes no sense to me. Just like, if someone were to continually order escargot, despite never liking it, wouldn't make any sense to me either. Using this example, didnt give my opinion on neither snails nor M.night. You chose to jump for a conclusion all by yourself. Other times i've used that analogy, people have jumped to other conclusion as well, that I disliked the subject I was talking about.

Itd be nice if you could communicate with less assumptions and in a more civil manner.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

become defensive and uncivilized in communication, is a flag for someone taking things personally. Of course, maybe its just Sass's personality, I was never sure which.

I sent Pang a PM instead of replying, because I felt it had nothing to do with the thread. Your replies at least had relevance to the topic. If pang wanted to talk about something irrelevant, PMs should be the place for it, since it doesnt have relevance. Its out of respect for the other readers. Apparently, thats not a universal quality. I find these most recent posts rude toward the original post, and those interested in it.

And now, here we are, talking about stuff that is completely irrelevant.

By the way, I dont get offended by people I dont know and who dont know me. Your opinion of me, in the long run is completely irrelevant. What you think of me does not have an effect on my life, so honestly, I really don't care what you think of me. However, I dont use this as an excuse to conduct myself like an ass. I think communication should be conducted properly and civilly, even if not everyone agrees with me on that. Once again, I see that civil behavior is not upheld at GFF, which is disappointing, as it wasnt always this way.

This is a topic about 'the happening', not your dislike for me.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

O jesus, this is rich.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

I don't understand M. Night fanboys, I really really don't.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Like I said,, if you possessed any kind of reading comprehension whatsoever, you'd see that M. Night in my opinion has made some fairly decent films which I enjoyed! That doesn't mean I will be a loyal "fan" just because I liked some of his movies. That's blind, that's not enjoyable, and that's fucking stupid.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

More butthurt, please. I'm not seeing enough from you.

Yea, that really doesn't justify your stupid analogy which made your bias incredibly clear. Or maybe you just don't understand analogies?

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

I don't think you know what "taking it personally" means. Maybe you should go back and re-read what you've written, avanent. You will find the definition within!

Additionally, where's my PM, avanent? How come Pang gets one and I don't?

My heart. It is broken.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

See, that's the point. You're a whiny prat. No one likes a whiny prat!

You only have yourself to blame~

HAY GUYS, PLEASE STOP PICKING ON ME WHEN I SAY STUPID THINGS.

I love this "GFF used to be so much nicer" card, though. You're a riot, Avanent.

This is considered civilized behavior here?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

That would the problem qwarky. Same for pang really. Although, this is new for sprout since I was last here. I didn't realize he decided to follow suit.

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ah, so thats the problem. Didnt realize this was a place of buffalo.

We should make a new banner for gff, it can say 'welcome to buffalo town', that way I wont get confused in the future.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Lord Styphon

Approves.

its perfect!

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

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Ava thinks the world should work this way: If you don't like something for a while, you shouldn't like it ever. When I was younger, I didn't like Gabriel Garcia Marquez. At all. Found his work boring and dreadful. But people kept telling me he was worth time. So I kept going back, and as I got older, and my palate expanded, I found him one of my favourite writers.

You also said escargot was an acquired taste, so why should someone keep ordering it if they don't like it? Well I imagine it would be to acquire the taste, no? Escargot has a lot of delightful flavours to it, and is quite fantastic, so it's worth the acquiring of taste for it. Maybe by ordering it repeatedly, for instance. Great metaphor.

You're tilting at windmills here, mate. The only person in this thread who seems to be especially pissed off is you. Sass is baiting you, and you keep chomping at the hook. It's sad, actually. Your position boils down to "You didn't like it yet, why the hell would you like it now?" Do you realise how asinine that is? I mean, just dwell on that for a second. Just think about how incredibly childish that outlook is. Do you still not eat string beans or the crust on bread because you didn't like them as a kid? Are you really that boring a human being that you've never been pleasantly surprised to discover something you've never liked before suddenly wasn't so bad? If you're truly that static, I pity you and your dull, uninteresting existence.

GFF was never a nice, soft place to get hugs. You want people to respect your opinion? Well, try having an opinion that isn't rubbish and utterly indefensible.

This is an interesting argument Denicalis.

I think its a good argument, but I would wonder why someone would be so upset about it, in this situation. If you are trying to acquire a taste, why would you be so pissed off about it, if you still don't like it. I could understand being disappointed, but alot of people seem down right pissed about thinking yet another one of his movies (just like all the others) were crap.

I am aware that tastes change, but if you consider something crap, over and over again, I dont see why you'd be so pissed it it hasnt changed over night. This is his seventh well known 'contribution' to cinema, and if you felt his first 6 were crap, why would you expect to think different of this one? I'm not saying this applies to the people in this thread, but this is a complaint i've heard alot of.

However, if you merely dislike it, or wish to like it, then yes, what you state is very possible and plausible for people.

Your reply isnt a hug. And, although there are a few words here and there which are abrasive, its not a personal vendetta at character assassination. Your post displays a much more intellectual and civil way to disagree with something than the others.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

But see, you're the one prescribing anger to people's reactions. I think it's much more apt to chalk it up to frustration than to anger. No one is saying M. Night does everything wrong all the time forever. I think most people can at least pick out one point in one of his movies that was truly interesting. It's sort of like reading an author who clearly has natural talent, but isn't polished. The edit is rough, and as such, you can't really enjoy the piece because, much as there are impressive aspects, they're overrun by the other qualities that are less savoury.

No one is mad that M. Night isn't a good filmmaker, they're frustrated that he never seems to improve. It's like he's still making his first couple movies.

if you look around the web, theres alot of 'he fucking sucks', 'all of his movies are crap', etc going around followed with statements like 'i want my money back' and 'he should go back to iraq' and 'hollywood shouldn't allow him to make movies'.

I never said that everyone subscribed to this train of thought. But theres alot of it going around.

Theres also a good amount of his fans stating that those people 'just didnt get it' and that the movie was actually amazing.

His fans like his movie, and the people who dont like his movies, continue not to like them. But alot of those dissatisfied, seem authentically surprised and upset, as if it is absolutely confusing how they could dislike his 7th major motion picture, when they disliked all of his previous ones too. Its as if these people are devoid of the pattern-seeking processes in the human brain.

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I acknowledged it was a good argument, and stated that he was, at the very least, partially right. I'm not arguing with him. I am actually, partially, agreeing with him. His argument is correct, but i don't think it applies to everyone.

I also stated that these hit or miss all arguments dont apply to everyone, but that there alot of people, whom are displaying hit or miss all, on the internet currently complaining or praising this movie. I even specifically stated that they dont apply to you, since you neither like nor dislike all of his movies. I never stated that you liked or disliked all of his work, i even specifically acknowledged and stated that you like and dislike some of his work. Why you think I am assuming that you like or dislike all of his work one way or another, when I specifically stated otherwise, I dont know.

How ya doing, buddy?

Lehah: I stated that the happening was not a strong movie, and could have been better. I was entertained, as I found the directing itself somewhat interesting. Never said I liked the movie.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

that other dumbass

/waves

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?