Holocaust Deniers Gather in Iran

Obviously, the Holocaust did happen. Now should it be illegal to deny it? Is it any different than denying that we landed on the moon? Of course it is.

Example:

Group 1 decides to deny that Wal-mart has driven Safeway out of business.

Group 2 decides to deny that black people are human, and states that they are, in fact, not completely evolved into modern Homo Sapien, and they even get distinguished scientists to support their cause. Black people are then ostracized and even killed in major riots.

Group 3, fifty years after group 2's evidence is proven wrong and agreed upon that their actions were inexcusable, decides to ignore the evidence and deny that this ever happened, saying that this is impossible, considering how much effort would have to be put into such an event. They claim that the black people are just trying to victimize themselves.

Now, obviously, Group 1's denial isn't necessarily bad, Group 2's denial is hateful, Group 3's denial is also hateful because they defend Group 2's actions by willfully ignoring that they ever happened. So, since positions 2 and 3 are hateful, are they not worthy to be banned from being declared in public???

Crunchy Nachos probably said something like this in the time that I wrote it, but I'd really hate to erase all this after all the work I put into it...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

The KKK is a big proponent of Hate Speech but to limit their speech limits everyone's speech. Where does one draw the line? They draw the line when violence occurs, when members are encouraged to go out and lynch. If they're not instigating violence why is the government stepping in to censor them?

If it is already proven that the Holocaust did happen, what motivation do people have to question it?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

Why can't they question it? Who is it physically hurting to question the events of the Holocaust? What does it matter what their motivation is when they should have the right to say it?

Considering that it would indeed be hateful to deny the events (And I say "deny", because questioning is rather useless considering that the answers are already in full view of those who want to know.), it should be made illegal. That, of course, depends on what your foundation for morality is, though.

Originally Posted by Crunchy Nachos

I really like how you put it!

Thank you.

Originally Posted by niki

Just to try to make you thick heads realize the fact you can question something without denying it.

You may not have realized this, but it's rather useless to question when all the answers are laid out in front of you. So logically, it would have to be denial. Plus, what does it matter whether 100,000 Jews died in the Holocaust of 1,000,000 (Or 6,000,000)? Does this change the fact that there was a Holocaust? No.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

After reviewing my previous position on censorship, I have realized that it's too 1984ish. However, I do not think that particular view should be encouraged as being "objective".

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Oh, I'm not saying that Niki said this, so this time I'm not trying to be argumentative.

I was speaking idiomatically.