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South Park vs Religion
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Adamgian
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Old Apr 13, 2006, 09:47 PM #1 of 98
I applaud Comedy Central in their decision. South Park is just taking it too far, and a blatant mockery of some very serious situations is not justifiable. Especially since it remains a sensitive issue and not one that people should inflame even more.

It's like asking a company to broadcast messages about the Holocaust right after it happened glorifying it. It's a bad idea any time, but even more so when issues are still very sensitive.

Comedy Central made the right decision here, and frankly, the South Park creators need to learn a thing or two about the difference between freedom of speech and the moral and physical consequences of their actions, not just for them, but for in particular, other Americans living around the world whos lives are endagered by such arrogant stupidity.

So as an American living in Saudi Arabia, fuck you Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Thank god Comedy Central is more competent than you imbeciles.

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Old Apr 14, 2006, 05:57 AM #2 of 98
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restrictions on freedom on citizens is about as useful as gun control laws; they only work on law-abiding citizens! As such, the only ones affected are law-abiding citizens. Terrorists are criminals (violent ones at that), and criminals, by their very nature, break the law and find ways around law enforcement. I deal with criminals every day, I should know. Laws that restrict the freedoms of law-abiding citizens have absolutely zero impact on criminals.

Just like criminals can still get guns as easily today as they could a hundred gun control bills ago, so too can terrorists communicate as well today as before all this nonsense got started.
The biggest mistake you keep making however is that this is a governmental ban. It's not, its a company deciding that it doesn't want to get involved in a very, very contentious issue.

Stop acting like a company exercising common sense means the US has caved to terrorist demands. It's nothing of the sort, its merely the company being logical and sensitive when its an issue that triggers such responces.

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Old Apr 14, 2006, 07:28 PM #3 of 98
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My appologies if you've answered this before, but how long have you been in Saudi Arabia and why are you there?
11 years, because my family is there for business.

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How is it not caving in to terrorist threats? Cartoons mock everything from Catholics to the President without threats of "we want to destroy you" and riots. Why should the Muslims be treated differently? What makes them so special that they should get special treatment? Jesus is as sacred to Christians as Muhammad is to Muslims, but the most they do is gripe about things and such, they don't fill the streets in protest. The worse Christians ever do is boycott something into the ground (like they did with Book of Daniel), while the Muslims want to see us tarred and feathered for it and would like to see us destroyed (not just for this, mind you, but still, I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say here).

So why, pray tell, do they deserve special treatment?
Because the situation is entirely different. The fact of the matter is, Muslims as a whole are currently lamblasted in the US media, many for no apparent reason. If the situation weren't as fragile, it wouldn't be as delicate of an issue. Hell, before 9/11, I wouldn't have objected at all. But the situation is entirely different, and thats why this issue can't fly.

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No legitimate reason? These people use their religion as an excuse to hate us, with a good chunk of them wanting to see us destroyed.
As was said above, its not religion, its foreign policy. Read what they say, they aren't attacking the US for being non-Islamic, on the contrary, they don't really give a damn, so long as the US stays out of their affairs. It's because of the US's support of Israel and the way it uses its army in the Gulf that causes problems.

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The ridiculous thing is that Muhammed wasn't even made fun of.
Being represented on South Park is considered an insult. I'm sure you can understand that.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Apr 14, 2006, 09:15 PM #4 of 98
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So you're willing to risk death for your business but not freedom?
Because theres no real risk of death anymore than in the US so long as the stupidity and arrogance of the US media and Congress is controlled.

We wouldn't be in the country if we believed that it were too risky to stay, on the contrary, we have plans set up in case the need to get out quickly ever arises. However, they're just that - backup plans. And we don't want to put them into use, especially when its because some goofballs are incapable of grasping the situation.

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Not really.

I do understand that (unless you're overly sensitive) there's nothing to be insulted by. Now, if they had done a spoof of Muhammed specifically defiling Islam, I could understand people being insulted. They didn't, so I don't.
I've seen a decent amount of South Park, so I guess I should correct my statement.

Anyone could get offended by whats on the show, it addresses issues with enough vulgarity that its not too much of a stretch, whether they be conservative Christians, Jews, or Muslims. It's not one particular group.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 08:32 AM #5 of 98
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I'm actually curious to what kinds of things you're referring to. I mean, I don't watch the Today show and see Al Roker complaining about some towelheads moving in next door.
Editorials concerning DP World, Accountability Acts in Congress, the general anti-Arabism according to multiple polls in the country, and Arab portrayal in movies in particular as the "bad guys." Coupled with an extremely strong amount of Israeli support at the expense of the Arabs a lot, and we have a situation.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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