North Korea wants to be an attention whore again...

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The only logical solution now is to wipe out North Korea's military capability with a crippling first strike.

I mean, isn't that what "You can either have a nuke or a future" means?

The one time military action would probably be justified, the US is simply too weak to undertake it effectively after being tied down elsewhere. It's relatively obvious Kim feels pretty easy going considering that the US doesn't have many options against him without the RoK government and possibly Japan being behind him.

Yes, I'll agree with NP on this. You can't talk publicly like that without being willing to back it up. Otherwise, threats lose their credibility.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Looks like the South Koreans are also gearing up for war now, if the US isn't showing its teeth, the South certainly is.

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South Korea's defense minister, Yoon Kwang-ung, later announced that Seoul will enlarge its conventional arsenal to deal with its potentially nuclear-armed neighbor.

South Korea's military joint chiefs of staff have told the defense minister that troops should check their readiness for nuclear war, according to that country's Yonhap news service, the AP reported.

Taken off CNN International.

Certainly isn't a great scenario, I really think Il just overplayed his hand. Also, nobody seems to be discussing probably the most likely turn of events, a Chinese orchestrated coup against him. Remember, the thing that angers the Chinese has never been the DPRK, its been the US sitting all over its doorstep able to act with relative impunity and keep a hold on Taiwan. I think the Chinese would rather get someone else there than risk enduring much more crazy behavior from Kim. Then again, we'll see.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Assassination's no good because the guy is always moving around and hiding.

China's the reason hes still alive. It wouldn't be too hard for the Chinese to assasinate him, or use the course of action Brady gave out. There wouldn't be much issue with a Democratic Korea that doesn't have a US presence. Nobody in their right mind would want China start democratic reforms that quickly, so theres not much fear of that for them.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Rather than bombing the North Koreans with explosives, I say we just launch a ton of propaganda leaflets that don't just say "overthrow your leader, he is teh SuQ", but just show them pictures of the better parts of China, South Korea, food, etc., just to show the North Korean population what they're missing out on because of "Dear Leader". He won't seem so divine when they see how prosperous South Korea has become while they're stuck eating tree roots.

Tresspassing airspace like that would be an Act of War, so nope, never going to happen. People aren't stupid though, given enough starvation, they will eventually revolt against what is happening. It's just a matter of how destabilizing it is.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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All the more reason to wipe out the North Korean regime completely.

Theres a consensus that it needs to happen, the regime can't stay. It's just more an issue of how. Personally, I see force as the only option considering how Sunshine and Chinese requests have all been rebuffed. However, since the US is still pretty dug down in the Middle East, doing so would severely blunt any further capabilities of the US army.

For that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the DoD run on a policy of being able to fight two full scale wars on different fronts and one small insurrection somewhere else?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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On the other hand, China may indeed be thinking about doing something about Kim.

Interesting article, thank you for pointing that out.

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Hmm, if that article is indeed correct, it seems that the DPRK isn't nearly as stable as I thought. I mean, I knew that Kim had to flex his military muscle to stay in power, but I did not think there had been coup attempts and riots in Pyongyang, essentially the city with the best quality of life in North Korea and inhabited only by those considered loyal to the party. Since those revolts seem to have been started by the North Korean elite, it wouldn't be all that unlikely that a significant portion of the army would be reluctant to fight or would just plain surrender if other countries were to invade. Unlike the average North Korean, those people know what happens in the outside world, and they know that they'd get blown into pieces sooner or later.

True, although frankly, what we're all really waiting for is to see how the Chinese behave, a Chinese coup would probably be the best option. Besides, China doesn't have much affection for the Hermit Kingdom, it merely keeps it as a bargianing chip, possibly for Taiwan. However, if the DPRK gets rowdy enough to force Japan and SK to militarize, its more of a liability, so I see a Chinese coup as likely.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?