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Why not legalize prostitution?
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 05:35 PM #1 of 366
There was recently a debate in the news about this recently.

With the Olympic games coming to Vancouver BC in 2010, there was group of people in the *consort* business that wanted to buy some downtown building to regulate the business. They stated that with all the soon to be business coming in *from athletes especially*, they wanted to have a base of operations so they could have proper facilities, which would also provide proper book keeping, protection for the employee's (health wise and physically, as they could hire bouncers etc..), and just overall make things better.

Their biggest opposition however was not the government, but various Feminism groups who are outright against it, stating the profession demeans women (no group up in arms for the male Gigaloo's tough), and hurts family values etc..

These groups seem to overlook the fact that even if they outlaw this, the women are still going to be doing the job, just in a much less safe way. At least making it legal will as previously said, make it taxable and have it so it can contribute more to the economy. It also lowers rape crimes as well.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 10:41 PM #2 of 366
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In the end I am more concerned for her soul than her physical well being which is why I would prefer her to grow up in an environment that more closely shares my views.
I may be taking this out of context... but you are basically just confirming that you want her to follow YOUR views of what is right and wrong, and refuse to help your daughter if she were to ever develop her own.

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To me the good that would result from legalized prostitution doesn't nearly match the good if it were abolished altogether and I'm talking about exterminating it even in its illegal form. I'm not ignoring the facts. I'm aware of them and still have arrived at my conclusion. Why do so many people automatically dismiss statistics that show that there is a drastic increase in the amount of abuse and violence against American workers in the sex industry? And that includes when it is legal. Even though I know it's highly unlikely that prostitution can be eradicated completely in places where it is illegal I'm unwillingly to give up on that cause. Because if it could be stopped entirely it would benefit society better than if were simply legalized and given government support. Disagree with me if you wish, but that is my reasoning.
Statistics show in countries where it is legal, to have much lower rates of rape and other sexual crimes. By taking prostitution off the street, you can take the employee's off the street and put them in a work environment where they would have the right to complain to police. Right now they know they have no one to turn to since their job is illegal, even though their pimp AND customers abuse them, and often end up dead or traumatized. However we've repeated this too many times already, lets get to the point.

The biggest problem here , and the reason why you will never change your mind (which very few people ever do ) is you are being selfish. You don't care how making prostitution legal would help others, or how many deaths/rapes it would prevent. You will defend where you stand to the very last, even if it would mean the death of 500 innocent people this year alone, simply because you think it is 'icky', and because your belief doesn't allow it.

That would be like Atheist saying "hey, religion and church are against my morals and I do not agree with them, therefore they should not be allowed even though on a logical level I have no problem with it and may help others and the community.". So then all of a sudden, your religion is outlawed, and illegal. How would you feel about that? To all of a sudden not have the freedom to follow your religion, all simply because the idea was 'icky' in someone's mind.

Lets just replace a word now

"hey, legal prostitution and sex are against my morals and I do not agree with them, therefore they should not be allowed even though on a logical level I have no problem with it and may help others and the community."

Wow, by just changing two subject words, I changed it from something that is against you (making church and religion illegal), into a sentence that is almost exactly what you are stating (making prostitution illegal). I bet the original sentence sounded pretty stupid to you and any other religious people, yet that is almost exactly what you are saying to us.

It all comes down to your selfish belief's and morals. "This is my belief, and I will be damned if I let you do something else, even though I agree with you that it would mean better treatment for those in the business, and maybe even prevent poor Jennifer from getting raped next week"

Here is a better scenario, as you seem to keep bringing up the daughter thing. What if your daughter got raped by some drunken guy, because he had an itch in his pants and could not pick up a girl, so he see's your daughter walking home from a friends place near a dark alley, and in his drunken mind, decides to have fun with her. Had prostitution been legal, he could have paid some woman for the fun and been done. She would have gone home safe, your daughter would have gone home safe, and Uncle Sam would have an extra $10 in his wallet. Sure, it probably won't be the exact case with your daughter, but I bet that scenario has happened more than once, resulting in the rape of some innocent girl somewhere in the world, and many more like it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 01:52 PM #3 of 366
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We are not going to change your mind, and honestly I have no desire to. The problem is that our rights and freedom are being warped because of your personal beliefs. You are selfish, but everyone is. The church just so happens to be one of the most selfish entities on the planet, as they constantly feel they should push their view on morals on others , even if they don't want them. Stem Cell research is a excellent example. Something that could save thousands and thousands of lives, yet since the church doesn't deem it moral, they felt they had to ruin it for everyone that doesn't even share their view. Rather than just saying "well we won't use it because it's against our Faith", they felt that had to police the world and figured they spoke for everyone.

You also stated that if religion were banned, you would still do it in private. Is that not the same thing as the argument for prostitution? Paying money for sex is not a problem for most of us, and it yields many benefits, including what we hope would be a decrease in rapes.

I would personally like to see religion gone for good, but that doesn't mean I am going to try and burn down all the church's I can find. I respect your freedom enough to have no issues with you going to church, as long as it is not forced down my throat, which currently in a way, you are.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 28, 2007, 11:00 PM #4 of 366
You made the thread interesting. I don't think any of us think of you as a bad person, we just don't have the same moral opinion.

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