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Vitamins and Minerals: How much is too much?
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Old Jun 5, 2007, 10:59 AM #1 of 39
Just to give you fair warning.

There was a recent new story about a study in which men who basically overdosed on vitamins *multivitamins etc..* would have cancer spread almost 3x faster than those who didn't. While the men who took the vitamins were not more likely to get cancer, those who did simply had the cancer spread faster in other words. Probably due to, as you stated, wearing out the kidney etc...

I am still a believer in good food > supplements. I buy the normal stuff *whey protein, multi vitamins, and Creatine *, but putting more money into good food, like chicken *or tuna if the funds are low*. Creatine is another thing to look into if you want a bit more bulk, but some people just can't handle it *kidney's*, or it simply doesn't really do anything for them.

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Old Jun 6, 2007, 10:44 AM #2 of 39
Ah,, it was prostate cancer they were referring too, although the rule still applies.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...0515/20070515/
But still interesting.

You shouldn't be afraid to take multivitamins though, it basically just suggest not to overdose on them. However I still stick by good food is more a factor.

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Old Jun 6, 2007, 08:58 PM #3 of 39
Anything more than 3 protein shakes a day is overkill. Also, can you give us a estimate on average day protein and calorie intake? Just as an example, at 6' 198pounds *9-10%body fat*, i consume about 3500 calories a day and 220 grams of protein while bulking, and I use creatine. Flax seed oil is another thing I use *and forgot to mention*. And also, the kind of food you consume like stated before, plays a huge part. Stuff like chicken/tuna, rice, peanutbutter, yams, etc.. are generally food you eat to gain mass.

Some more details about you would help, such as your height/weight, age, and intake for calories/protein to give us a better idea.

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Old Jun 7, 2007, 08:52 AM #4 of 39
Basically Ayos, it sounds like you have the body that 90% of the population would kill for. I cannot even imagine being 6'1 and only 125lbs. As Omi stated, it's gonna come down to consistency and inhaling as much food as possible. Keep up with the food mentioned, and as stated, start throwing on some olive oil and flax seed oil into your drinks. Poly and Mono fats are not only essential, but a big source of good calories and complex carbs.

If you still have issues, it might be worth your investment to see a professional nutritionist for a while and see what he/she says.

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Old Jun 7, 2007, 05:36 PM #5 of 39
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90% of the population want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, not Christian Bale in The Machinist!
True, but most people would love to eat all they want and not gain an ounce. Bread Pitt in fightclub is nothing natural, just hard training and excercise, which 90% of the population don't have the discipline to do.

Edit: NM, thinking of a different forum

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jun 9, 2007, 12:36 AM #6 of 39
Hmm, is ZMA available through supplement chains, or is it available only online?

Ayos- Sounds like lean muscle would fit better in your lifestyle than muscle bulk. Chances are even if you were to gain mass and put on some good muscle, your body would burn it in favor of longer lasting lean muscle because of the activities you take part in.

Reasons like this that I still say the human body is an amazing machine.

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Old Jun 9, 2007, 10:41 AM #7 of 39
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And you're basically telling him to gain muscle, but not large amounts of it. There's no real difference in muscle between bulk and lean, unless you mean he's better off gaining some muscle without getting to the point where a lot of the "mass" weight he's gaining is also fat.
I basically just meant that he would have been better off just gaining the bit of muscle without worrying about the mass weight. Had he been living that type of active lifestyle *which he just said he doesn't*, then it would have been almost impossible to put on the heavy mass, as he would have just started burning the excess muscle.

Edit: I was always under the impression that lean muscle was more Type II A while Mass *Strength* Muscle was More Type II B. Hmm, hafta research into it again.

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