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[Movie] "Villains" - Heroes Season 3 Thread
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Old Sep 22, 2008, 09:06 PM #1 of 132
"Villains" - Heroes Season 3 Thread

The third season double-episode premiere is upon us. Naturally, there will be revelations and new questions.

Discuss your impressions, theories and gripes here.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Sep 23, 2008, 12:32 AM #2 of 132
Spoiler:
Yeah, that whole scene was possibly my favorite part of the whole evening. What I liked was that Sylar's method of acquiring powers is one that makes sense, given his original ability to understand the basic workings of things. No infusions, cannibalism or anything like that. The only question is leaves is why all his former victims were found with their brains completely missing. For some, he was perhaps pressed for secrecy and fled to a safer location to study, but this wasn't the case for every murder (Dale Smither and Zane Taylor, for example.) I also wonder why Noah mentioned "infusions" when he was discussing stolen powers to the captive Sylar. Perhaps he didn't know the true method and merely assumed. We don't really know how far back the writers agreed upon all this.


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Old Sep 23, 2008, 02:31 AM #3 of 132
I have only one gripe.

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"Should have gone with Sprint"
Well, after Season One being an eight month long commercial for the Nissan Versa, tonight's little comment was hardly anything, neither was it hardly surprising.

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Old Sep 26, 2008, 06:20 PM #4 of 132
So far, I haven't seen any mention of Micah or Monica in press blurbs or production crew commentary. I'm wondering whether they'll be featured at all this season. Micah was moderately central to Season One and is apparently considered important enough to give Noah Grey-Cabey some face time during the Season 3 Hollywood special. Monica, who knows.

I'm mixed about this. I liked Micah. His power is quite interesting and isn't a direct rip-off of anything seen in the comics. He could be very useful. But his storyline was fiercely dependent upon his parents, and now that D.L. and (for now) Niki are out of the picture, there's no immediate direction with Micah.

Monica seemed like a somewhat ill advised add-on for Season 2. Monica (and subsequently Micah's) entire arc seemed to be a justification for killing off D.L. and Niki, while not making it seem like Micah was totally abandoned. That would've been fine, I suppose - just say Micah went to stay with cousins - but Monica's power is fucking sweet. I've spent time considering all the potential uses and it staggers the mind. I'd be upset to see Monica dropped if only because there's so much potential for her ability to be explored. It'd be a far more compelling exploration than Mohinder going all "Fly" on us and fucking Lady Death, that's for sure.

Maybe they'll show up midseason. Neither is listed on imdb.com as being included in this season, but imdb only shows cast credits for episodes that have been filmed.

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Old Oct 7, 2008, 07:27 PM #5 of 132
eprox1, you're right. People lose their powers because Sylar kills them; Claire is the only one to survive. This takes me back to what I thought through all of last night's episode: Why does Peter need Sylar's power when he can already do basically the same thing?
Because Sylar's power isn't stealing peoples' abilities. It's intuitive comprehension, he can innately dissect an object or entity and determine its systems, what makes it function, why it functions as it does, what flaws are preventing it from functioning ideally, etc. For example, if you had a broken ipod, you'd have to consult a manual to identify and fix the problem. Sylar can study it and derive the solution on his own, without any previous knowledge of the subject. Apparently this ability extends to the human body, right down to DNA sequences and whatever other factors determine a hero's gift. Through this understanding, Sylar examines a victim's brain, locates where the ability is centered, then somehow restructures his own brain to operate the same way. Why this particular trick is possible, I'm unsure but it's now canon so we gotta roll with it.

Peter doesn't need to steal peoples' powers from them, obviously. What he does apparently require is the ability to study a subject and analyze its inner workings. How this will play out, who can say? I suspect the "hunger" was written into this season to allow for a bit of role-reversal in which Sylar slowly becomes the valiant savior and Peter slowly steps down the path of corruption.

In that light, it seems fair that there's going to be a lot of role-reversals down the path.

What I don't understand is that Peter can heal, and is ostensibly immortal due to having been around both Claire and Adam Monroe. Thus, why doesn't Peter let Sylar have his ability? Peter would regenerate and Sylar would have a method of acquiring a person's ability (and therein understanding it) without having to kill people for it.

Of course, that's a much-too-easy and clean solution, so it'll never happen.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 02:34 PM #6 of 132
But you guys should stick around in a couple of eps. There's going to be surprising guest stars
If one of these guest stars is not Christopher Eccleston, the series is finished.

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Old Mar 4, 2009, 08:22 PM #7 of 132
Doyle was never truly killed. He only collapsed from fatigue when Sylar overrode his telekinetic powers. We last saw Doyle face down on the linoleum in Primatech. It's conceivable (and now obvious) that he could've escaped before the place went up in Meredith's inferno.

For that matter, Meredeth and Flint are probably okay too, as both are known to be fireproof.

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