[Movie] Heroes Season Two Discussion

The second season of Heroes begins tomorrow evening for those in the United States. There's sure to be quite a few revelations and a slew of new mysteries.

I read an interview with Tim Kring, in TV Guide, a few days ago. Kring stated that this season will find Noah Bennet and his family relocated to California and will follow his attempts to pick up the shattered pieces of his family life while eluding his former employers.

Claire will also find a new life apart from her old family and will develop a romantic interest. This will be sunshine and roses until she discovers the same injection markings on his collarbone as those found on Parkman, Sprague and others.

Niki and Jessica will continue to resolve their inner conflicts, though things may not work out for the best, especially where torn interests in Micah are concerned. Curiously, Leonard Roberts, the actor who played D.L. Hawkins, is not on the Season Two cast list at this moment. Hawkins was severly injured at the end of the first Season, and the alternate-future Sylar was shown to have stolen D.L.'s abilities. Perhaps Roberts' absence and this storyline are connected.

Season Two will also place a more significant emphasis upon the old guard heroes such as Linderman, Mr. Deveaux, Angela Petrelli, Mr. Nakamura, and others. Takezo Kensei, original owner of the sword, will also play an important role, as he is supposedly over one millenium in age.

There will naturally be new heroes also. In addition to Takezo Kensei and Claire's unnamed love interest, superpowered individuals Maya Herrera and Monica Dawson will appear. It has been revealed that Dawson is a relative of D.L.. Another hero, Elle (portrayed by Veronica Mars' Kristin Bell) will appear near the mid-season point and will possess significant skills involving electricity. These are the ones revealed thus far.

It's too early to speculate on much else, but matters will unfold.

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Originally Posted by striped phantom

(BTW, did they include any of that on the DVD for those who missed it?)

No, those weren't included as extras. I'm somewhat disappointed by that. The set came with seven discs, but Disc 7 contained only one episode - the season finale. The rest of the disc is filled with "behind the scenes" documentary about stunts, special effects and the artist, Tim Sale. With all that leftover space, the comics would've been an excellent bonus.

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I'm sure there will be those divx/xvid rips online and I'll try to keep you guys posted on those links.

Please do. I downloaded each one you posted. I'll do the same again.

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Originally Posted by Tritoch

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I'm really anxious to find out the specifics of her power. My current theory is that she can unleash localized and fast-acting plagues, which would be really, really awesome.

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My take was a bit different. The people were all bleeding from the eye sockets, which suggested to me that they'd perhaps had some kind of hemorrhaging. If she were able to manipulate the heartbeat and blood pressure of everyone around her, she could easily cause cerebral and ocular bleeding.

I don't think her brother is a super. I get the feeling that he's normal and it's merely his reassuring presence that helps Maya calm down enough to control her powers. He is the Ando to her Hiro.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

A compelling theory:

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Hiro, having gone back and met Takezo Kensei, realizes that the stories he'd been told as a child were false, that Kensei was a petty con-artist. Disillusioned, Hiro takes on the responsibity of fulfilling the legendary acts himself, with Kensei along for the ride. At some point, Kensei reveals his own power - limited immortality - and Hiro realizes the scope of how both their abilities could work together. (It's by this that Kensei could theoretically cut out his own heart to save another, yet survive.)

Eventually, Hiro brings reform to Kensei, who rededicates himself toward working for the benefit of mankind - based largely upon the stories about himself as told by Hiro. Satisfied that he has caused history to maintain its sway, Hiro returns to the present.

Fast forward to the mid-20th century. Kensei is alive and well and is now working alongside Linderman, the Petrellis, Deveaux, Kaito Nakamura, and others. As their philosophies collide, Kensei is angered by the manipulations and greed shown by some - traits that do not mesh with his reformed sense of purpose. Kensei goes into hiding and watches the group from a distance. It is at this time that he sees Kaito have a son, the tme-traveler he met centuries prior - but Kensei says nothing.

Fast forward to the present day. The Linderman Group's attempt at destroying New York has failed and its supporters are struggling to find new direction. Angered by their cavalier attitude toward humanity, Kensei decides that the plot's creators must perish - Angela for her central role, Kaito for knowing yet actively doing little to prevent it.

Takezo Kensei is the man who kills Kaito Nakamura and plans to kill Angela Petrelli. For having killed the elder Nakamura, Kensei and Hiro will become rivals.


A fun twist would be having the blacksmith's daughter hook up with Hiro and unknowingly conceive a child after Hiro returns to the present. This child would bear the genetic code and, in effect, Hiro would become his own great-great-great-great (and so on) grandfather. [/Futurama]

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Originally Posted by striped phantom

Also, I dunno if you guys remember Hana. Maybe her character wasn't popular enough to keep around. But the last we heard of her was last season when she helped Noah Bennett take down the Company's satellite. There were two ways for them to track our Heroes, their satellite and Molly. And now Hana is somewhere researching random stuff about Central America and some of Kensei.

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Hana Gitelman is dead. Most of the comics from this past summer addressed Hana's involvement in taking down the Company. She managed to steal a ride aboard a spacecraft, enough to get close to a certain space satellite. But when Hana tried to manipulate the data in it, she fell victim to a specially designed trap and somehow became infected with a computer virus. She leaps onto the satellite and burns up during re-entry.

It's speculated that while Hana's physical body is no more, her consciousness still persists within the internet.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I keep thinking that Nathan was obviously scarred in the explosion with Peter. However, he's also been healed, or at least had his visage reformed. I doubt that it's an illusion, since the damage has been hidden in various situations and around various people. This leaves me only one theory:

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Angela Petrelli's ability is fleshcraft: the ability to permanently alter the physical appearances of others.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

D.L. getting shot was the most incredibly stupid way for him to go. He gets killed by a no-name character introduced in the last 30 seconds and doesn't have the brains to "dissolve" in dangerous areas like that? Really stupid. Really lazy writing.

I felt this way too. D.L. reflexively phased out when the anonymous guy threw a punch. Why wouldn't he do the same when a gun is pressed against his frontside? You could argue that he wouldn't want a stray bullet to hit anyone else behind him but that's still rather flimsy rationalization. Leonard Roberts obviously didn't leave the show for ulterior reasons, as he was willing to reprise D.L. for the past two episodes (Unlike Missy Peregrym, who played Candice Wilmer and left to star in "Reaper".)

If this is how they're handling pivotal arcs like the deaths of main characters, I can't imagine how sloppily Season Two will conclude.

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Originally Posted by Captain Desu

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now if only elle would actually join their side (she's going through the omg, my dad hasn't done that for me when i was 18 phase)

Actually, I think that's what the writers were slowly working toward, bringing Elle over toward working for less selfish reasons, if only as an act of rebellion against her father. It's a way of making her more sympathetic to viewers.

Noah Bennet was/is one of my favorite characters, as he seems to be one of the most genuine. However, I was fully prepared to see and accept his death. Keeping Noah alive via this method almost feels like a cop-out, as it grants immunity to nearly any beloved character. It now feels very hypocritical that D.L. was allowed to die in such a flimsily written manner.

I've begun to suspect that the whole plotline involving Maya, Alejandro and Sylar will not be wrapped up this season, as last night's episode didn't touch upon them at all and there's still the whole "Shanti Virus" matter to resolve within two episodes. Personally, I doubt anything will be fully brought to closure in that time. It seems more likely that the writers, knowing there was an impending strike, will end the shortened Season 2 on a powerful cliffhanger, giving themselves some leeway to resolve the unfinished plotlines at a future date.

Lastly, Kaito Nakamura is officially deceased and even Hiro won't prevent it. Is it too much to ask that we finally learn what Kaito's power was? And Angela Petrelli, also? C'mon, this season was supposed to focus upon the elder generation. Throw us a bone.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

knk, not every screenwriter wanted to strike. In fact, a considerable portion was against it because they were satisfied with their positions. However, being a screenwriter in this day requires you to become a member of the Screenwriters Guild. When the Guild chooses to strike, members either join in or become blacklisted. Union politics are brutal.

It's quite possible that the Heroes writers didn't want to strike, that they wanted to write this season through to a fully-crafted conclusion but couldn't due to pressures from the Guild.
(Personally, I doubt this, since there's been an enormous amount of online content for Heroes and increased royalties from new media sources is one of the Guild's pet issues. But you never know.)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The tags for next week's finale keep stressing that two heroes will be killed. Now, their definition of "hero" has always been pretty loose, as there was a bit of similar fanfare before the episode in which Sylar killed Candace Willmer. Candace worked for The Company, so I'd hardly call her a hero, but whatever. NBC must define it as simply possessing a power, not by actual alignment.

Anyhow, who do you suppose is going to bite the dust next week?

My first guess is Niki Sanders. As someone said, she wants off the show. She's infected with the Shanti virus, so it's very possible they've scripted some lame resolution in which killing Niki prevents the virus from spreading.

My second guess is harder to nail down, but I'm thinking it's Maya. They already killed Alejandro off, and Maya has demonstrated that her power can be controlled without Alejandro, and that makes it useful to Sylar. It's logical that Sylar had been fed the same power-suppressing meds that Peter was taking, since Candace was with The Company. Their effects wore off approximately five days after Peter stopped the doses, so Sylar is probably reaching the same point. He'll find he has his powers again - perhaps with Candace's illusion ability to boot - then kill Maya.

It's just as well. I found Maya and Alejandro to be quite dull.

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