[DS] How do you get 3,000 pikachus on a bus? POKEMON!

I still haven't battled anyone online. I don't care if I win or lose. And I won't send out a team of ringers unless I get absolutely thrashed several times.

I just wanna fight.

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Man. Identity Crisis and I just had a LEGENDARY BATTLE. All Level 100 Pokemon.

He opened with a Crobat against my Breloom, which was a bad, bad omen for me. Things got worse from there.

I switched out to Dusclops. I Will-O-Wisped his Crobat and it hit me with Toxic. I Mean Look'd the Crobat and we traded blows until they both collapsed simultaneously.

I then threw out Milotic against his Salamence. It was pretty harsh and began dealing sizable chunks of damage. After the Salamence Dragon Danced, I had a bad feeling and switched over to Gardevoir, which was OHKO'd. Then my Meganium was critical'd before I could set up my defenses. My Weezing was similarly dispatched before it could land a successful Will-O-Wisp or Haze.

Breloom came back out and took a huge hit before putting the Salamence to sleep. Forced into switching, I.C. tossed Charizard out and it immediately took a heavy Focus Punch from Breloom. I brought Milotic back in and finished off the Charizard with a couple Water Pulses.

Skarmory was next for I.C. I kept healing and Water Pulsing. Skamory's couldn't keep Milotic poisoned thanks to Refresh, and I got a lucky confusion effect with a Water Pulse, which spelled the end for Skarmory.

I.C. then sent Flygon out, and I sensed a theme. It dealt some hefty Earthquake damage but I was able to heal successively and landed a critical Water Pulse with another confusion bonus. Flygon fell.

He tossed the sleeping Salamence out, hoping it'd awaken and finish me, but that didn't happen.

Then he brought out an Aerodactyl, which I knew was trouble. It Double-Edged and Stone Edged me a bit. I had to spend a lot of turns just Recovering. But I got in another Water Pulse and it, too, added confusion. I took a risk by attacking instead of healing, estimating that a normal Stone Edge wouldn't be quite enough to kill my Milotic, whereas my Water Pulse could finish him off. But if I.C. got a critical, which Stone Edge is known for, I'd be done. My Breloom wouldn't be fast enough to do anything.

My Milotic clung to 17 life and retaliated with a lethal attack, killing off Identity's last Pokemon.

But Good Lord, was it intense. A come from behind victory like that is rare. I.C. has a Salamence from Hell, and I was lucky enough to apparently have a Milotic from the same dark place.

I wish you could record battles. That'd be a keeper.

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Man. I so cannot afford a Wii right now.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by ^-^

Milotec (Leftovers) <Bold Nature> [EV: 252 Sp.DEF, 252 HP, 6 HP]: Surf, Ice Beam, Rest, Sleeptalk

Have they changed Sleep Talk to its old ways? Back in Silver/Gold/Crystal, it was near broken. I had a Sleeptalking Kingdra with that very same moveset and it was unstoppable. I mean, it never got beat. Back then, you could use Rest while asleep and it would heal you. When Ru/Sa came out, Rest was changed so that it couldn't be used if the Pokemon was already asleep. You got no life gain and it was a wasted turn. Since Sleep Talk is random, the "SleepRester" tactic became incredibly unreliable.

Unless they're now allowing Rest to work while your Pokemon is already asleep, then I'd go with a totally different moveset.

Quote:

Weavile (Life Orb) <Jolly Nature> [EV: 252 ATK, 252 SPD 6 HP]: Ice Punch, Swords Dance, Blade Test, Pursuit

I'm not sure what "Blade Test" is. I do, however, know that Pursuit is less than ideal. I've been messing with Weavile and most people seem to know that it has great offense but very poor defense. I'm finding that more people are willing to trade blows, knowing that even a neutral attack will take a good chunk out of Weavile. This makes Pursuit's purpose rather moot. If you want STAB, stick with Night Slash.

I'd also recommend breeding Aerial Ace. It'll do some strong damage to most Fighting or Bug types, which are Weavile's biggest foes. By all rights, a Heracross should own a Weavile, but a Weavile who knows Aerial Ace is gonna win that fight 90% of the time.

Swords Dance is okay, but not always needed. It's not like Weavile doesn't already have a ludicrous attack stat. What with Weavile's poor defenses, I'm not certain you can always waste a turn powering up. Better to pass some attack power.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by RABicle

Hey guys anyone have a Shuckle they could spare me? You'd forever be my best friend! Don't care about it's nature or IVs or wahtnot cos lol, it's a Shuckle. i want it for it's shuckle-ness.

No, only I am allowed to use Shuckle. Do you even know how ANNOYING it is to raise a Shuckle to level 100?

But seriously, if you've got the patience, you can do far worse in a fight than throwing a Shuckle at the enemy.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

So, they were checking for AR use at the events? And a side-effect of the AR is the creation of 95 Explorer Kits in the mailbag, making it a dead giveaway.

But, what if you had two copies of the game and only used the AR on one. Suppose you used it to get some useful items and capture Pokemon you need, but then bred and raised the Pokemon normally. Then, once they were raised, what if you traded them to your other game, one which hadn't been connected to an AR.

Could they still detect that?

I don't have an AR, so it's moot for me, but I'm still curious.


And Chaotic, I could use some surplus TMs if you can spare them. There's a few I know I'd use in multiples.

FELIPE NO

The jury is still out as to whether preset levels affect EVs.

My thought is that if they do, then they affect everyone and people are still on an even playing field. Otherwise, let those who put the extra bit of work into training reap the potential rewards.

When we list our teams, do we have to list the attached items? I'd like to think that some of those things are supposed to be surprises (like Focus Band) and revealing them beforehand ruins the entire strategy.
I know some tourneys require item listing so that nobody has a team full of Leftovers or Petaya Berries, but I don't mind. They're all valid strategies in my book.

As for Evasion Clause, I find that is going too far. Those moves exist for a reason and it's not like one Double Team makes a Pokemon untouchable. There's still moves like Aerial Ace and Faint Attack. But there's a legitimate strategy to creating an insane defense, and it has to happen over several turns. The first few turns, you're very vulnerable to Sweepers, so it's not like Evasion is some God-like tactic.

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Originally Posted by Slash

This would be a very cheap thing to do which is why Double Team is pretty much banned

Ninjask
Substitue
Double Team
Baton Pass
Swords Dance

Now you could technically use mean look (not sure how it affects substitue, if you have it prepared but if you have someone use substitue for a long time, ninjasks speed will go through the roof, using double team and swords dance, then use Baton pass to pull in Gyrados and have him Use Hyperbeam or something. Thats why 2X team is banned.

The antidote is very simple.

Protect.
Then while Gyarados is recovering, Haze.

Back on even ground.

And there's plenty of Hazers out there, all of which can learn Protect.

A well-timed Sucker Punch could also do the trick.


Also, define "Legendary". Personally, I don't have a huge problem with the birds or dogs. I still think Skarmory is a bigger threat than Moltres or Suicune. And I've never had an issue with Jiraichi.

What about stuff like Cresselia, Heatran or Rotom? Are they legendary too now?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I've got a very good T-tar counter. It's resistant to just about everything in that standard moveset as well, so I'm not thoroughly frightened off. It happens to be a Pokemon I'd use anyhow, T-tar or not, so it's not even like I'd be including it as a Magic Bullet.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I've got true level 100 Pokemon available. If forced, I could play them instead of the stuff I've been breeding lately. I'm waiting to get Merv's game for a minute to do some evo-trading, and I gotta love another Pokemon up some more before it'll be ready to EV train. That one's gonna be nasty since I got the perfect trifecta of personality, trait and ability, a mean, mean Egg Move, and I know precisely where to train it.

If we hold another tournament in a month, I could probably swing a whole new team.

How ya doing, buddy?

I have a bit of a question, can't quite figure this one out.

Let's say I'm raising a Magnezone. Apparently Mirror Coat is a move it can learn upon its own, but only at level 1. Naturally, you cannot get a Level 1 Magnezone; it's just not gonna happen without major hacking. The trouble is that a level 1 Magnemite will not learn Mirror Coat.

I tried the Heart Scale guy, but since Magnezone never had Mirror Coat in the first place, it couldn't be remembered.

I'm genuinely stumped by this. It seems like there should be a simple answer but I'm not seeing it. Does anyone know how to get these Level 1 moves onto evolved Pokemon?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

No, I'm not raising a Magnezone. I am raising something else (I'm secretive!) and was in the same situation though. I found myself desiring a move that apparently has to remembered.

I'll try the Heart Scale when it's fully evolved and see if your hypothesis holds true.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I still think it's a bit wonky that you get to see teams and movesets ahead of time, Kairyu. Individually, the benefit is limited, but as a conglomerate, you might observe that a lot of people are using Tanks, so you'll know that packing a Hazer will be statistically advantageous.

I should just hand you a list of nine Pokemon. From that list, I'd select my team to use throughout - and they'd all be confirmed legal - and the rest would just be left out.

Ah, but which six is Crash bringing? What's his team strategy? Will he bring the Special Sweeper or the Healer? You don't really know!

I like it better that way, honestly. Keeps it all fair.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Other than the Enigma Berry, will there be any other item clauses?

FELIPE NO

Might wanna include the part about submitting teams of 9 instead of 6, then choosing which 6 before battle.

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass

I've never even heard of veekun. Just Serebii, Smogon (which is down), and Psypoke for the popular places. I do like some aspects of their comparer, though. The actual height comparisons are pretty cool.

I'd add Marriland to your list also. Their site gets a lot of traffic and their forums have some pretty smart players. Personally, though, Marriland's best feature is their Pokedex. It's arguably the cleanest, most well-presented Pokedex out there.

It's an oft overlooked site, but it's got the goods to run alongside Serebii, Smogon and Psypoke, that's for sure.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I've got a weird question. I can't explain this one.

Last night, I was purging my boxes of unnecessary Pokemon. You know, releasing them. I had a Lvl. 7 Buizel that I don't need, so I sent it away.

But it came back?! "Was it worried about you?", the game told me.

I've never had this happen. I never even used it, so it shouldn't have built up any affection. Is the refusal to leave a sign of something good, like Max IVs or anything?

This doesn't make sense.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I just brought four Pokemon up to Level 100 tonight. They were each at 80, but those last twenty levels take nearly as long as the first eighty, it seems.

So now that I've got that done, I'm kinda stumped. I'd like to raise something else that's battleworthy but I'm not sure what would be interesting.

Anyone have suggestions? You don't need to supply movesets but ideas for strategies might be useful.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I already had a level 100 Blissey.

The four were Weavile, Salamence, Gengar and Empoleon.

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Ah, if you'd participated in the tournament, you'd know that I already have a trained Skarmory as well. It's not a Spiker, but I have something for that too.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Hey, I need someone to connect with me for five minutes so that I can evolve a Machoke.

If you've got the time and you're willing to assist me, send me a PM. Thanks!


EDIT: I'll have to consider the Sunny Park Tourney for a bit, and see which Pokemon I've got available from Egg'd experiments.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Shin

I will admit though to being slightly childish when naming Pokemon I've caught just for trading. There's a fair few Pokemon called stuff like Ilovemen and Poostain floating around now. I figured childish insults was funnier than out and out swearing...

My ex did that whenever she caught a Pokemon she had no interest in training. She caught a Spinda, mostly as Dex fodder, then named the poor thing "Retard" because it has spirally eyes.

I actually felt bad. I know it's absolutely stupid, but all I could think about was the little Spinda's joy at finding a trainer, then its complete disappointment over being named "Retard" and crammed in the PC forever, never to frolic in the sooty ash again.

I forced her to trade it to me. I trained it for a while until I realized that Spindas are pretty much worthless, so I released it.

I'm sure she has more horribly named Pokemon floating about. She caught a Diglett once, and planned to raise it, but wanted a name. For some reason, we'd been discussing what sort of psychotherapy rap musicians would need, so she named the Diglett "Thugrapist", as in "a therapist for thugs". I told her it looked like "thug rapist", and somehow that made her love the damned thing even more.

I just give mine normal, fear-inducing names like everyone else. I'm not a mean person.

FELIPE NO

I've never had to use the GTS in the first place. I logged on once just to see what it was like, and just as VGCats predicted, it was nothing but a thousand twelve year-olds wanting to trade their level 4 Bidoof for a level 100 Palkia.


WASTE. OF. TIME.


(Speaking of wasted time, being in the hospital has given me the opportunity to breed and level five Pokemon to level 100. Don't wanna reveal which ones, though, just in case I fight some of you mooks.)

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

So, I'd been cut off from the wi-fi for a couple weeks. It's been a while since I got to duel anyone. Just casual stuff. Hell, you don't even have to bring your A-list fighters. It might be nice to battle without running into the same overused Pokemon. Seeing the same Pokemon time after time gets a bit dull, you know?

So if anyone is up to battling over the weekend, send me a PM.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The main reason I dislike the GTS is that you have no control over the EV scheme and movesets. The GTS' sole function, to me, is the acquisition of breeding stock.

I've no idea why the Japanese would even want Bidoofs. It's not like the stupid things are unavailable in their carts.

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