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Why are people offended by the term "Islamic fascists"?
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 12:01 AM #1 of 131
Why are people offended by the term "Islamic fascists"?

Here is the article from MSN:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14319984/

I usually despise Bush, but I have to defend him this time. "Islamic fascists" is a very accurate term to describe these terrorists. They are Islamic, and they are trying to spread a form of dictatorship that is based on religion and nationalism and racism. So why are the innocent people, the Muslims that do not fit into the group, offended by such terminology?

I say "If the shoe fits" . . . In this case, it does, by definition!

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:35 AM #2 of 131
Originally Posted by knkwzrd
I think the current administration remarking on anyone else's fascist values is the pot calling the kettle black.

Also, how exactly are they trying to spread a dictatorship based on racism? Religion, sure, Nationalism, okay, but race doesn't really come into it. Islam accepts converts from all backgrounds.
Race comes into it because, for whatever reason, the Jewish people are considered a race. I don't know why, that's just how it is, and the biggest nemesis of the terrorists is Israel, the literal "country of Jews".

Oh, and yes, I realize this country has plenty of fascist values, but that doesn't really make the term any less true, does it? Not all of us support our government, remember.

Originally Posted by a lurker
Because every brown person that looks at us crook-eyed is an islamic facist. Gitmo is stuffed with islamofacists, for instance.
Huh? Did you forget how to read, or do you just like antagonizing me? The term refers specifically to a select group of people, the group that others call a fanatic section of the Islamic faith. Now while that is just as accurate a description, how is "Islamic fascist" not accurate? They fit the term by definition. It has nothing to do with skin color, it has to do with the fact that the terrorists are a fanatic section of the Islamic faith trying to push their religion on the entirety of the world using violence as their primary weapon. By all definitions, they are fascists, hence "Islamic fascists".

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It's a slur, Patty. By definition bad black people are niggers but you don't get to be shocked when folks take ill to its use.
How is it a slur? There is no relationship between the term "Islamic fascist" and the term "nigger", none. "Islamic fascist" is a term being used to describe the terrorists running rampant across the globe, it's not being used to describe all Muslims in general.

Why would a normal law-abiding and good Muslim be bothered by terrorists being called "Islamic fascists"? I'm not offended when white serial killers are called murdering psychopaths, as I'm not part of that group. The same should go for Muslims who are not part of the terrorist group, as neither they nor other good-natured Muslims being called by this term.

How about you read the article I posted and do a little homework, so that you're more informed the next time you decide to speak, hmmm?

Originally Posted by a lurker
dumbest ni--ah, nevermind
Right back at you, retarded piece of sh--ah, nevermind

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 03:32 PM #3 of 131
Originally Posted by Lord Styphon
So, what you're saying is that your problem with "Islamic fascists" is that it uses the wrong adjective for describing someong or something of the Muslim faith?

This would create a problem for English speakers, since in English "Muslim" and "Islamic" can be used interchangeably.
QFT!

Last I checked, "Islam" is the religion, and "Muslim" is a practitioner of said religion.

Islam is to Christianity as Muslim is to Christian

To expand on Styphon's point, how can one be a Muslim and not be Islamic, or vice versa? Being part of one makes you part of the other, as they directly relate to each other just as with my Christian example above.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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