The Immigration Protests

Originally Posted by insertnamehere

It's just like you white people not to care about racism. And you wonder why so many other races hate whites

I don't wonder why anyone would hate whites because they are whites. The simple fact that they hate me because I am white means I will have nothing to do with them. I don't care why because I know what ever reason they come up with will be another excuse and stupid statement. So maybe you should get over all this BS and stop hating whites, then things would be just fine, huh?

I think the government needs to lock down the boarder with the use of the military. I'm sure if they were charged with the task of protecting their homeland they would do an outstanding job. I'm sure you would see drug flow through our board come to a complete stop.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by gukarma

Here is the thing: the market is not in an incredible burden because of illegals right now. People could simply follow legistlation to allow these immigrants to BECOME legal. They'd bring tax revenue in then, and everything would be well.

BUT NOOOO. These are CRIMINALS. GOD FORBID you help a CRIMINAL even! YOU SHOULD GO TO JAIL!

You are just too fucking spiteful of a human being. Because of people like you I am moving out of this country.

First that isn't true, in Oregon they are a huge drain on the economy because they receive free healthcare along with a number of other public services they are NOT paying for.

Second, why do you reward someone for breaking our laws? It is like telling me that you will give me a reward for robing you everyday of your life! These people are STEALING our services illegally, and any sane person would see that rewarding them for breaking the law only encourages them to do it!

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by gukarma

Whatever the fuck happened to needing a warrant to search people and their belongings?

Oh right, it went out the window with this fucking douche of a president.

Guess it all makes sense.



No one would bring drugs over if there was no market for them in the US.

Plus, this confuses the issues: there are hard working people who want to embrace the American dream and help thrust this nation forward among the criminals that trespass the border.

I guess that doesn't matter.

You wanna know who the largest source of revuene for Mexico is? America! A large number of these people do not come here to be citizens, they come here to work and send the money back home to their family.

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I agree but i disagree with the mistreatment of the legals in this country. I mean imagine a cop stoping a mexican an he's like

Mexican:What's the problem officer
Officer: Oh nothing i just needed to see if you where legal since you looked mexican

You see my point. I agree i shouldn't have said that about whites, but it just bothers me when people don't care just because it doesn't effect them directly.

So by his point if he saw someone get murder he wouldn't care because it's not happening to him.

I don't agree with that, but the boarder is a huge security risk. However if they put out a reward system to encourage people to turn in those they know to be illegals, that might be a better solution rather than just stopping every mexican person they can.

gukarma: That is stupid. We already have a large number of people who are illegals in our prison system, which btw means they are on your tax dollars! I say just deport them back to mexico once the boarders are secured so they can't come back.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

More excuses, gukarma. I don't care why they did it, the simple fact is they broke the law. If they want to be here they need to obey our laws or GTFO.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Shonos

I'm poor with no where to live and it will take years to save up for a house. I should be able to go break into one and live in it god dammit.

I'm a good person really. I just want to survive. So it's okay for me to break the law.

Shit if that is the case, I am poor too! GIVE ME, GIVE ME, and GIVE ME MORE!

Geez, there is no such thing as a free hand out. Someone always has to pay the bill and as a tax paying American I am really fucking tired of having to pay for these law breaking fucking illegal immigrants! So gukarma if you are so keen on helping these people why don't you go to Mexico and do it, don't try and force your stupid ideals of what the US should do, because really I don't care what you think should happen and I am pretty sure the majory of people don't care either.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by ArrowHead

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By the way, I think it's funny how minutemen have been monitoring the B.C.-U.S.A. border recently. What, did they expect to catch a few Chinese or something? Do some of you guys honestly think that any Canadian would need or want to cross into the U.S.A. illegally? That's a fine joke if I've ever heard one!

Actually there was a huge ring of illegal Koreans being forced to have sex to pay there way here to the United States a few years ago. Want to know how they came here? Though the American - Canadian boarder because Canada doesn't require people from Korea to have a passport and the boarder between our countries are very lax.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

This is what you miss gukarma. Those illegals have no right to be here, they have no right to make a living here, they have no right to use our social services, they have no right drain our economy by sending money to mexico, and they are criminals. Period.

So gukarma, are you pro-criminal? You want all those drugs to keep flowing through our boarder? Do you want those people to keep coming here so that hard working Americans wages are deflated?

FELIPE NO

PUG1911: I agree there is nothing wrong with people who are here legally sending money outside of the United States, they have that right. HOWEVER illegals do not have that right. Ever wonder why the United States is the single largest income for Mexicans, in Mexico?

gukarma: No I don't agree, everyone who is here illegally should not get citizenship nor a green card. You are still suggesting the rewarding of criminals.

I suggest this. A national ID card as the solution. Make it so that only citizens and people who are legally here can get these (include what ever information i.e. retina scans so that these cards can not be faked), then require that in order to work you have to have one of these cards and any employer caught hiring people with out these cards will be fined so heavily their arshe might never recover. You then don't need to move a single illegal; they will leave on their own because there is no work for them.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Igod82: What gives you the right to take something away from someone who worked hard for it and giving to some bottom scum piece of shit that just needs to kill themselves because they are good for nothing? You know what that is called? Communism... Guess what that makes you, a fucking commie.

So have you ever actually read what the definition of racist is?

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary defines racism as the following:

- The doctrine that certain races of mankind are naturally superior to others; program of racial discrimination based on this doctrine, as in the Nazi Germany.

So Igod82 are you saying these people need special help because they are inferior? Because if they were equal to everyone else they wouldn't need extra help right? Remember those retarded kids in school, how they got special teachers and special classes? So are you saying that the minorities are like that retarded kid and that they need special help to do well? So what, does that make white people superior because we don’t get special rights to break the law and get away with no punishment?

BTW it is "see" not "cee". Ever hear of spell check?

LeHah: I think he was one of the short bus kids.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

So yes you are free to write anything anyway you want but don’t be surprised when people assume you are retarded for doing so.

Apparently you don't know what racism is because you still advocate for communism and special rights (ie the inferiourity of your own race). Good luck with being inferior. Racist.

Do you know who Thomas Alva Edison was? Maybe you should read up on him. He was a self taught man that did extremely well in this life. So don’t give me that bullshit about, “blah blah blah my family is poor blah blah blah I’m a piece of shit so you have to give me money”, because I don’t buy it. I’m from an extremely poor family and I am doing just fine. All you are doing is excusing and justifying their illegal actions.

So the better question is not why shouldn’t they be allowed to come here, it should be why should they be able to come here and break our laws at a cost to people who actually have a right to be here?

Oh and by the way, I do have the courage to defend my nation. Something I hightly doubt you have the testicular fortitude to do.

“Even better maybe u can get a job on the border and shoot some of my kin while they try to come work to support their families.” - you

This is what you don’t get, they have no fucking right to be here. They are Mexico’s problem, not ours.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

NO, this is not a world problem; this is a Mexican problem because they are a sovereign nation. They created the problems they have there; they can deal with the consequences of them. America is not responsible for the corruption that Mexicans elect into power. “A person is a person” is like saying a cat is a cat, WTF is your point? So good for you Igod82, you can see that we are all people, I believe most 6 year olds can easily grasp this concept.

Yet there is one thing you can’t say, that these people have a right to be here. They don’t and you know it so stop justifying the action of criminals. It is like saying that, “murders shouldn’t be punished because they didn’t have a good life, and, and, and we need to make them feeeeeeeel better.”

PUG1911: Don’t get me wrong, I am marrying a nationalized citizen. I have no problem with people immigrating here; I do however have a problem with people just walking over the boarder because they think they have some right to do so.

As for the communist line, don’t take it to heart and the “pieces of shit” refers to the garbage that is filtering over the boarder because they feel they don’t have to go through the same process that everyone who nationalizes here legally has to. It is this attitude that America owes these illegal immigrants something is what pisses me off. We owe them nothing and they have no right to just break our laws because they don’t feel like following our laws of the land.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

CetteHamsterLa: They just need to declare English as our national language.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

America is not a place to go if you want to take from the rich and give it to the poor, that is the absolute most un-American thing you could do. If you want to be in a place where they do that sort of thing go somewhere else.

Again Igod82 I have already stated that I have no problem with legal immigrants however these illegal aliens are not immigranting here they are invading. I'd have to say you completely misunderstand my up in your face very direct method of getting my point across, I don't hate anyone. I'm just pissed that these people seem to think they have a right to cut in line of their country men by jumping the boarder. If they actually cared about America they wouldn't be chanting "Mexico" in our streets and openly saying that their illegal activity was ok because they are "entitled" to do that. In reality these people are only entitled to be thrown out.

I was speaking idiomatically.

That is funny that it takes an internet ass raping from you LeHah to get any sense into this guy :/

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Right now they have only committed a misdemeanor.

FELIPE NO

What is with the pity party hate bullshit?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Well if you did imprison them, hard labor would be the answer. That is what they supposedly came here to do right?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

insertnamehere: They aren't getting off on anything, the laws that would affect them are not being enforced and the measures needed to throw those they catch out are not being taken.

Oregon is a prime example, they have made it illegal for the Oregon government to ask anyone for proof of citizenship which leads to illegals getting a Oregon driver license... Our state ID has become a joke to other surrounding states.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm sure with the growth of the number of illegals in the last 10 years this number is far higher now. However it doesn't matter of it was a million, billion, or even a trillion. They are using services that they have no right to, which the American public is having to pay for... people that I might add who actually have a right to these services. I don't know about you but I don't like to pay for the free ride of another.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Lehah, enlisting these people into the military is not a viable option. Reason being, as it stands the military spends hundreds of thousands of dollars training soldiers who have already a high school degree. Now on top of that training they also have to bring these people up to speed where all current enlistees are already at (12 years of high school). This adds a huge financial burden to the military; their enlistment would have to be 12 years or more for the military to get the same moneys worth on them as they do with regular American soldiers. Have you ever heard of the militaries dependant pay? We had a guy while I was in basic, he was an E-1 and he was taking home 3k a month because he had a wife at home and a lot of fucking kids. If you want to pay and absorbent amount of money to these troops under the current system go right ahead but you'd get better soldiers at a lower cost by recruiting Americans rather than Illegal Aliens.

From what I have heard from other service men and women, they don't want these people in the military. They don't want a draft for that very reason; these people don't want to be there and will only put their lives at risk. I can also say as a member of the military that absolutely do not want to serve next to someone who can't understand what I am ordering him to do.

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Originally Posted by gukarma

I didnt know you wanted to lose the war, lehah.

Actually, these people would probably make great front line marines. Remember the Blacks who served in the revolutionary war for their freedom?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by GRUN-3

You're retarded.

Cost of a soldier

Wow way to be an asshole. Ever hear of civilized discussion? Wait, nevermind I should never have expected any more from you.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The whole point behind the idea of allowing these people to serve in the military is so they can become citizens, not die. I don't agree with this idea because that means that I have to serve with these people on the battlefield and is another expense that my tax dollars will have to pay for.

Maybe you don't understand how our military works but we do not operate by throwing people who do not speak our language on the front lines. That is outright stupid and dangerous. If they ever decided to allow these people citizenship by enlistment in the military they would have to be trained and that training would have to include teaching them English which is not a fast process and time equals money. By allowing illegal aliens on the battlefield with out that training you are putting at risk not only the illegal at risk but also the lives of everyone around them.

You seem to have missed my point. My point was not to suggest that we train these people to the level they need in order for them to be competent soldiers, it was to point out that it would be a waste of money to do so.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by GRUN-3

Help, I don't know what an entrance exam is!

lol

Then what is your solution to this situation?

FELIPE NO

Good luck with that. A fine reason why I am a proponent of gun ownership rights.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by LeHah

While what you said does make a lot of sense - you have to agree with one fact in this situation.

No one fucking cares about the Mexicans.

So instead of sending out "our boys" to foreign lands, send out the border jumpers. Canon fodder, as it were. Wetbacks armed with minimal education and a rifle with a clip. While, yes, cost is certainly a thing to consider - the fact that we'd be sending those that are all but acknowledged second-rate citizens off to face all-but-certain death would solve our problems.

Truth is I don't really care if you send this people to Iraq in my place as I am like you LeHah, I don't want them in my country. I just don't ever see this happening. You are not the first person to have suggested such an idea, but even you managed to gain the support of the president or some other high ranking official on this I’m sure the military would fight it with every ounce of power they have. This is because they know you can’t just throw these people out in the field and expect anything from them, otherwise you’d just end up with a lot of deserters, cowards, dead bodies, and a large waste of money because you had to ship them there and minimally equip them. All that will come of this is a complete waste. If your goal is simply to kill these people, there are FAR easier and more effect ways to do that.

Jam it back in, in the dark.