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[PS2] Final Fantasy XII
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Old Jan 18, 2007, 04:32 PM Local time: Jan 18, 2007, 10:32 PM #51 of 4284
Dam, since the release of world of warcraft the burning crusade i stopped playing ff12 ^^. Hopre i'll get back to it soon ^^.

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Old Jan 20, 2007, 11:48 AM Local time: Jan 20, 2007, 05:48 PM #52 of 4284
I'm having a lot of troubles in finding many hunts. Is there a better way to understand where they are, and HOW they spawn, even without using a guide? I used trowabartan's guide, but some times even it is not clear, as for the hunt that is right in Zertinan Caverns entrance (from westerlands).
Do you know a good guide that also tells you HOW to make them spawn? For example, i even had problems making spawn deathscyte and the hunt in deadlands (the one that should be where the grass is tall and where's fog).
And how do i get to fight with gilgamesh, and wich is the hunt that gives you the masamune?

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Old Jan 20, 2007, 05:21 PM Local time: Jan 20, 2007, 11:21 PM #53 of 4284
Yeah, gilgamesh song is one of the best in the whole final fantasy saga ost, especially the one done by nobuo's band (with real instruments).
Anyway, i've just solved the problem with finding the hunts. I used the other hunt guide (there are 2, i used the lower one), 'cause that explains clearly where and how they spawn, and in a little space (wich thus is also easier to understand). Infact, i could put in in just 2 pages for printing. I love short faqs, and i hate big one, that make me waste a lot of pages and carry a big load of them ^^.
I've done a lot of quests, and i found very little difficult with fafnir, considering that i wasn't very prepared, and i had poor weapons too (zs, deathbringer, and ultima blade). Gilgamesh 2 was very very hard on the other hand. But i really went unprepared to him ^^.
Tomorrow i'll try the masamune with genji gloves ^^.
I hope to finish hunt/espers soon, so i can move to the next j-rpg ^^.

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Old Jan 22, 2007, 02:54 AM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 08:54 AM #54 of 4284
I'm thinking to just do the hunts and yazamat, leaveing aside the espers (but i already did some, such as chaos, the one in miriam, bhareim, zestina, and so on).
Do you think it will be possible? Right now i use as weapons: zodiac, masamune and ultima. Do i have chances to kill yazamat?
And what's the easiest way to get the sagittarius?

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Old Jan 22, 2007, 08:54 AM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 02:54 PM #55 of 4284
I didn't understand very well how the masamune damage is decided, so, does bravery increase the damage with masamune? Or should i use faith, or must i use both in orther to increase it's damage?

And what is the sword that gilgamesh drops on the ground? Can't remember it.

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Old Jan 22, 2007, 04:22 PM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 10:22 PM #56 of 4284
Yeah, in hard optional bosses curaja is the way. Since i don't wanna change the gambit setup everytime, i disable curaga and cast curaja manually.

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Old Jan 22, 2007, 04:34 PM Local time: Jan 22, 2007, 10:34 PM #57 of 4284
What would the damage on yazamat be with a fomahault and dark shot? Is it a good idea?

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Old Jan 23, 2007, 09:26 AM Local time: Jan 23, 2007, 03:26 PM #58 of 4284
Ok, so i'll do the hunt that rewards me with the ragnarok.
But i haven't got the sagittarius. So, can you tell me the fastest way to get it? I only sold 1 moon ring (if it's called so), so, how do i get the other 2? For yazamat, should i put the speed to fastest, and wait mode?
Anyway, yesterday i killed behemot, i think it took me 20 minutes, or maybe very little less. I really hated when he was immune to physical attacks, but thus i could concentrate in rebuffing my characters (for example with bravery, bubble on masamune user, hastega, and so on).
Yet, i think i'll leave omega, as i've already been near the crystal for the hunt (psycodaemon), and don't wanna do all that way again.

Ah, personally i don't think ff12 has much replay value, nay, i think it has none. I would give it 9 for sidequest/replay, as i would diminish the vote of 1, for the 0 replay value. It's not worth to do all the story again, as it sucks, and sucks a lot.

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Old Jan 23, 2007, 04:48 PM Local time: Jan 23, 2007, 10:48 PM #59 of 4284
uh I'm at this place called "Dracklor Labrotory" and Is there things I really got to look out for?
Nah


Lilgreekkid, i don't think it took very much, as when i moved to the next area, and then returned, mobs didn't actually respawn there. Actually just some strange mandragoras spawned under a srhine (no rare though), and they were 6 lvl 70, each one could kill me with 2 hits. So, if you meet them, cast scathe with 3 characters on them before approaching.
So, in orther to clear each area, i would first move in the circonference, and then i moved to the center. I disabled any useless gambit, and only activated the most useful one (hastega too), and i did it pretty fast.

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 06:04 AM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 12:04 PM #60 of 4284
About nethicite, i'm almost sure it comes from latina. In Italy, we often use scientific words written like them, of course with a differend pronunciation. But i'm rather familiar to words similiar to neticite (such as calcite, pirite, and so on). Nethicite reminds me a lot about mineral names.


where did you fight the mandragoras at??? The only things I am able to fight are the snakes, mantis, those Humbaba looking monster and 1 Dinosaur thats in the center near the gate of Gigas.
Ok, i first cleared the first area, then moved to the second (where is giruvegan gate). So, i went back to the first area to check if some mob respawned, and i saw something shining in the snow-fog. I went near, and found these mandragoras. They weren't ??????? though, so, no rare mob, yet, i think it's actually rare, so dunno if you may find them. But after i killed them, i went to the second area again, and behemot was near the gate.

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:06 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 09:06 PM #61 of 4284
Guys, i've just finished all the hunts. So, how can i encounter yazamat? Can you tell me step by step what i have to do in order to be able to fight him?

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 03:22 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 09:22 PM #62 of 4284
How to fight hellwirm?

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 05:41 PM Local time: Jan 24, 2007, 11:41 PM #63 of 4284
I red that yazamat casts reflect on my members. How can i prevent this?

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 11:59 AM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 05:59 PM #64 of 4284
But if i dispel the reflect that yazamat casts on me, won't i dispel my other positive status too (bubble on masamune user, hastega, protetga, and so on)?

I've been somewhat side tracked lately and just haven't really had the time to pick up the game. I'm saved right before Omega, finally thinking of takinig a stab at him. BTW, a little off topic, but anyone have any good recomendations for a FF-esque RPG. Truth be told those are basically the only RPG's I have played. I thought of buying a couple of the Suikoden's the other day to see what they were like, but I didn't. Just wasn't sure about them.
WOA! I was actually thinking to play suikoden 1 and 2 right after ff12, as i've never played that serie. The first and the second, 'cause they say the 2 is the best, but that the story is a true follow up of the first episode.
Yet, i still have to decide between these 2, and ffx, as ff12 really left me unsatisfied with it's story, so i'd really like to play a ff with a TRUE wonderful story.

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Old Jan 25, 2007, 04:42 PM Local time: Jan 25, 2007, 10:42 PM #65 of 4284
....uh I fought Gilgamesh and his dog partner.....but his entry scene....he TRIPS and fell off the top bridge on to the bottem bridge and that made him like a fool.......and he talks to much......after I beaten him he runs away like a coward
Never seen such a monstrous spoiler

Anyway, he is like this in ff5 too.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 04:51 AM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 10:51 AM #66 of 4284
But why do you say i should use ragnarok with yazamat? Isn't him immune to immobilize? Shouldn't i use ultima blade instead?

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Just killed hellwyrm. Was pretty easy, but took me a lot of time , i think 45 minutes, but dunno how much exactly as i went for lunch between the fight (i paused of course).
I also wanted to do yazamat, so i could say goodbye to the game, but only had 3 hours, and i didn't know if i could kill him in that time. So, i'll go on him tomorrow.
Anyway, hellwyrm battle was VERY exiting, the most one till now.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 12:06 PM Local time: Jan 26, 2007, 06:06 PM #67 of 4284
Well, today i didn't start fighitng him, 'cause i feared that quitting and realoading the save, would refill his healt.
Anyway, you say that i should use berserk, but that would be very bad for my strategy, as i have self bravery on everyone, self hastega on ashe (tank and main and masamune), protetga on fran (not healer). Do you think i could do it easily without berserk, or does it last as much as bravery and haste, so that i don't have to worry for these 2 to wear off while berserk is on?
About the brave suit, i saw it at the beginning of henne mines map (sepihirot's). But in the game i can't find it. There's no chest in that place. Can you help me about this? I'd really like to give brave suit to masamune user.

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Old Jan 27, 2007, 11:11 AM Local time: Jan 27, 2007, 05:11 PM #68 of 4284
Guess why i haven't been here for a while...i've been facing yiazmat ^^.
and...I'VE FINALLY BEAT HIM!!!
WOAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It took me 5 freaking hours of gameplay, and 2 real days, and maybe 6-7 real hours of game!!!
Can you tell me how the heck you could beat him in less than 3 hours, or link me the 2 hours video?
Now i can make MY "i hate yiazmat" thread rofl.
In the beginning i tought he was boring and long, after half of the life bars he become hard, and when he got to 4 healt bars, he became IMPOSSIBILE!! Lol. I just had to lower one bar, go back to the save crystal, heal and buff, and get back to him..and this was the true longest part lol. He was dam hard, at times i wanted to destroy the tv.
near the very end, the only right strategy i could use was to put 2 to heal only (and raise and esuna), and one with bubble and berserk (she had masamune).
Anyway, it's really a disappointment that hunt bosses don't drop treasurs (like equipment). I remember that in star ocean 2 it was very gratyfing to receive the best equipment after killing iselia queen. And it is about this game that i wanna talk. I can say that ff12 has the second best gameplay, and very best is still star ocean 2 one.
Tomorrow i'll do bahamut dungeon again, and say farewell to this piece of *** lol.

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Old Jan 27, 2007, 02:18 PM Local time: Jan 27, 2007, 08:18 PM #69 of 4284
Well, i didn't fight omega nor chocobo.
But i know that i won't ever finish the game 100%, or that it will take all my life. So, i decided i would be satisfied with yiazmat.
But do you say i should really beat omega? How much tougher is it than yazmat? And how many hp does it have?
What about the chocobo? Is it hard to spawn?

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Old Jan 28, 2007, 05:51 AM Local time: Jan 28, 2007, 11:51 AM #70 of 4284
About the yiazmat in 2 hours, i see that i didn't have yagu darkblade, so maybe that's the main reason.
About omega instead, is it really worth the effort to do the whole dungeon in orther to meet him? Is the challenge really good, that i should kill him even if i killed yiazmat?
About reverse and decoy, i didn't understand very well how to use it. So i'll tell you i think it works, and correct me if i'm wrong.
I'd put hermes sandals on 2 characters, and genji gloves on tank. I'd put those 2 with reverse and decoy gambit (target the tank). And i'd not put reverse and decoy gambit on tank, but just attack.
Should it work like this?

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Old Jan 29, 2007, 04:12 AM Local time: Jan 29, 2007, 10:12 AM #71 of 4284
About reverse and decoy, i didn't understand very well how to use it. So i'll tell you i think it works, and correct me if i'm wrong.
I'd put hermes sandals on 2 characters, and genji gloves on tank. I'd put those 2 with reverse and decoy gambit (target the tank). And i'd not put reverse and decoy gambit on tank, but just attack.
Should it work like this?
Can you tell me if this is the good way to use reverse against omega?
And can you also tell me how much my english is correct please? ^^

Edit: Do i have to wear or not the diamond armlet, to get the excaliburt? I tried 10 times but got nothing.

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 04:53 AM Local time: Jan 30, 2007, 10:53 AM #72 of 4284
Yea I had the same thoughts too. I also thought fights like Hell Wyrm, Omega, and Yizmat would be nearly impossible. One thing when I looked at it that I didn't take into account was the combo's. While unless you have certain weapons and accessories they can be sporadic, but they can add up pretty quickly as well.
Yiazmat IS impossible, when he gets to 4 health bars. It required me a very very long time to remove his last remaining life ^^.

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Just defeated omega, and what to say. It was a piece of...ehm...cake.
I went all the way through that stupid long and boring dungeon, just to have this easy fight.
I also spent a very lot of time trying to get the excalibur, but in the end i decided not to waste my life anymore on it .
I decided to fight omega, 'cause somebody told me i really had to fight it, as i couldn't have considered to have done the most important sidequest, without fighting it. And some people also said that it was harder than yiazmat. Ok, i have to say that omega is a piece of...ehm...cake , but yiazmat was IMPOSSIBLE (in the last 4 bars). After i beated it my heart was exploding lol.
I guess then that it's really meaningless to kill lvl99 chocobo.
Tomorrow i'll do bahamut dungeon again and FINALLY say goodbye to this game .

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 02:26 PM Local time: Jan 30, 2007, 08:26 PM #73 of 4284
Holy shit, there's a Bahamut in this game? I thought he wasn't in FFXII. And yeah, I agree with you, it's a huge long stretch but I'm getting close to it. How is Ultima like when you compare her to like, I dunno, a boss that is a step down from Yiazmat.

Anyways, I'm off to fight the Hell Wyrm. Any suggestions?
Actually it's just a dungeon ^^.
For hellwyrm, and i think yiazmat too, especially in the first half, masamune + genji gloves is the best weapon ever. You can do him 20k per hit.
Just dispel it, then expose abut 10 times, berserk on main (with masamune), and unleash your power ^^.

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Old Jan 31, 2007, 09:26 AM Local time: Jan 31, 2007, 03:26 PM #74 of 4284
Don't worry, yiazmat will be harder. This in the first half, and after, as i've already said, he will become harder and harder, till to become IMPOSSIBLE rofl!!
Anyway, i've finally redone the last dungeon, just to say goodbye to this piec...ehm, game.
Thank you guys for all the infos you've given me. The answers i didn't or couldn't find in gamefaqs guides, you gave me ^^.
Now i'm gonna prepare the ps1 to play suikoden 1 and 2 ^^.

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