[General Discussion] Suikoden Club v7!

Originally Posted by Casaubon

Spoiler:

Is there an official "Flame Champion" or no? Also does the Flame Champ have an official name?

Keeping with the spoiler:

Spoiler:

Yes, there is an official Flame Champion. That would be Hugo. If you watch the opening anime--he's the only one fighting the dragon.

Wow. This is my first post on the new one....

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Enkidu

The Flame Champion:

Spoiler:

Well, Hugo is really the only option for Flame Champion, since Geddoe already started with the Lightning Rune, and Chris is supposed to enherit the True Water Rune from her dad. I never really liked that you could choose who would receive the rune, since it doesn't stroke with the overall Suikoden feeeling. It's the Rune that chooses it's bearer, and I always assumed that you couldn't give it up even if you wanted to, so being able to switch True Runes like Chris, Geddoe and Hugo did, doesn't make that much sense to me, nor did the fact that the former Flame Champion mangaged to give up on his rune.

As for the Flame Champion's name, I'm not sure, but it probably appears in the manga, which I've just started reading (only two volumes released over here), so If anyone has read it further, please let us know.

And thanks for the scans Tyr!

Welcome back Leknaat!

Howdy.

Spoiler:

Remember--Sana said the Rune could see all three of them, but couldn't tell which one was the inheritor. That it was up to them to decide. Ted's grandfather gave Ted the Soul Eater, and then Ted gave it to Tir. Of course, this was more than likely the Soul Eater's influence.

So, who's to say Konami's argument wouldn't be: The Rune chose the inheritor (meaning we're playing the part of the Rune).

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Enkidu

I really didn't like IV, it just didn't have an epic feeling like I, II, and to a certain extent III had. Tactics is a huge improvement IMO, since the beginning already manages to create a much more exciting world with the pirates and all. I'm not that far yet, but I have high hopes, although the battles can be fairly hard if you want to get Rank S for some cool items.

After a slow start--I actually liked IV. Sorry, but I did. Mainly because of the major battles. I liked that--and Rita-Pon!

But--let me ask about the ranks. I don't have Tactics yet, so are they anything like III's?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Enkidu

Ranks are ratings you get after the battles. S rank is the highest, and it's only rewarded when you do really good in battle (I only got it a few times myself). you can get some of the mst powerful items in the game by achieving S; or a bunch of medals which raise stats for lower ranks.

The skill system as seen in III also makes a return. After a battle, the entire battle gains skill points, and you can distribute them among your members. The skills can be rather useful, like a bigger moving range, or more attacks.

I have to agree with you on Rita-pon, that game was pretty damn addicting.

Sweet. I liked the skill system in III. Bigger moving range? Like IV's modification of the ships for greater cannon range? Sounds interesting.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Enkidu

When you get a high enough level, you can use the Slash rune on almost any enemy. I usually go for the giant crab on the deserted island, and it gave me enough money in a good hour to get most of the important character's weapon's to max level. If your level isn't high enough, just train with the guy aboard your ship.

I thought that was one of the best ideas in Suikoden. Instead of trying to remember where the tough enemies were, you could level up without ever leaving home--and see the fighting styles of your people to decide who to use.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by RunemasterJeane

I am really hoping that the ship date on EBGames is right, because if so Konami got smart and pushed the date up a week. Good idea I think, because it would have gotten completely overshadowed by KH2. *sigh* Damn game companies are breaking me this month(getting Shadow Hearts next week, Suikoden V the week after that(if that date is right), and KH2 the week after that).

On a somewhat related note, I'm listening to the Suikoden V rip and I am LOVING it!! If the music is this good, I cannot wait to see if the game is just as good.

Ona a somewhat related note:

JEANE!

*POUNCE*

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by RunemasterJeane

LEKKY MY LOVE!

The lost Atreides siblings are together again! I forget, am I Bubba or Gunther?
(To all that are wondering what the hell I'm talking about, don't ask, ya don't wanna know )

God--I was going to write "Bubba and Gunther together again." too. That's freaky....

I can't remember who was who. I think I was Bubba since I live in Ohio...LOL

And to paraphrase Jeane--"You don't wanna know."

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Knighthawk

I miss you guy's signatures done with the runes of the suikoden games. Some of those were great.

So it says here the game comes out on 3/21/06. Thats good, I havent been following this game like I did IV. It seems like it took a longer wait for IV (from when III came out) then it does with V. Word on if theres actually a castle? Or does the group travel in a big wagon that magically gets bigger with the more people you get? (Cmon the whole ship homebase was stupid)

The ship in IV was big to begin with--it didn't magically grow. LOL

And, to be honest, at first, I thought you'd return to Razril and take over the Hall of Knights. But, the ship was kind of fun--especially fishing.

And the some of my sigs should return after I'm done with this RGB sig.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Denicalis

The bonus to getting all 108 characters was the only redeeming factor. God awful battle system, terrible characters (I need a talking duck in a helmet like I need a kick in the teeth) and an atrocious story. However, a great soundtrack.

But...Sgt. Joe was irresistible to the female ducks...LOL

Although, I'll admit, everytime ANY of the ducks walked, I kept thinking of the scene with the geese in Aristocats.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Spike

I am at the point where I'm supposed to find Liukan (sp?). I just got the old man to give me the engine for my boat so that I can get passed the river rapids in the world map.

It gets better after this. For the first time playing it, you are bored for several hours. I'll admit it--and I'm a huge fan. But, I bought my game, and I was going to finish it. And I was glad I did. The story picks up right after this.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I just got V. I know--late. Problems getting it, you see. (Are ANY of the previous complete sentences?!)

And I'm loving it.

All the Suikoden games start off slow. (Suikoden II especially pops into mind. Long-ass intro and then all the recruiting...sheesh...) But, when you commit yourself to playing this game, you're in for a treat.

And V definitely brings back the Suikoden "feel." And it does sailing right! Let the AI handle it! No battles.

And although I liked IV's Rune Cannons, these water battles are more fun.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Dee

Whoa... what? You liked IV's rune cannons? IV's tactical battles were so easy I could've done it with my eyes closed. =p V's definitely harkens back to the classics, which I really enjoy!

I finished V (finally!) with both the complete and incomplete endings. Just in time for school too. In short, I adored it. Great game.

Yes. I LIKED the rune cannons. Not the actual battles, but the idea of the cannons themselves.

And, these battles are more fun. I think I like "Don't let 'em get away!" as my favorite battle cry.....lol

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Winter Storm

Apparently the game was discontinued(this isn't confirmed though). I don't see it at EB anymore either as a brand new game. Should it be true that is was, lucky find... I see Suikoden V being much more expensive to get than the Suikoden II is.

I loved V and like jct said, the load times were well...heh. Big emphasis on female fighters in this game than any other.

No, I had ordered it online, but I never got it (someone stole it), and I was lucky to find a new copy at the local EB. I called them and they held it for me.

And, yes, the load times are a bit long, but I like Viki's screen....

I was speaking idiomatically.

Okay, I'm bumping this thread up to ask if anyone has heard anything about Suikoden VI?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well, that sucks. I hope they stick with the style of Suikoden V.

This game got all the elements right.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Tyr

Not to put a damper before anything officially has been stated but RPGFan ran a headline today saying Konami terminated development on several next-gen games including the rpg's it was working on. Suikoden VI I have a feeling might have gotten the axe since it was announced earlier in the year it was in development. I honestly hope that didn't happen but it wouldn't shock me as the sales in Japan for V were terrible. Thanks mostly in part to the unfortunate black sheep of the series being IV.

That's if we were to assume that Suikoden VI is for the PS3. But, even if it were, I doubt Konami would stop making its most popular series. The company would be overrun with Suikoden zealots.....demanding to know the Yuber/Pesmerga story!

How ya doing, buddy?

I actually liked 4 over 3. Even after all me bitching about the sea travel--it was fun when I got the hang of it. And I loved the Rune Cannon battles. They were actually fun. (I haven't played Tactics yet--so NO spoilers for me, 'kay?)

Granted, many of the SoDs seemed to be there just to fill the slots, but I think that can be said for all the games as well. I mean, did we really need Maximillian in both I and II? He was a source of continuity, to be sure, but I don't think he was necessary. And that continuity was carried in III, IV, and V.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

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It's one of the worst tactical RPGs I've ever played when it comes to story

Read it Lek.

Which one? IV? or Tactics? I mentioned both, so I'm not sure, but I'll hedge my bets and say IV.

Can't really say I blame you there. In fact, I kind of agree with you.

Spoiler:

The most linear of the games, but sometimes it's nice to just play something "simple" once in a while. Helps relax the brain. Remember, I said the Rune Cannons were fun to play. They were. Although all the info for them was laid out in front of you to make the battles easier....

There's nowhere I can't reach.