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Meiusta
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Old Oct 9, 2006, 03:44 AM #1 of 44
heyho.

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Well I think Play! should at least fix certain problems that Seraph here has raised, I believe it is MOST of the Japanese composers who had bad treatment and experiences when asked to appear in Play!, not a few.
i am curious to know who are the japanese composers who were complaining?! reading eminence's latest announcments about upcoming concerts and their involved musicans it look like bad feelings are coming from mitsuda and sakimoto. mmmmhhhhhhhmmmmm. MOST of the jap composers had bad treatment?! well well well. i only see two. bad enough but no reason for eminence to bash play. who knows what composers are thinking about eminence!

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And poor arrangements can lead to giving people bad impressions on VGM. It seems that Play!'s program tends to go up and down interms of arragement quality, the VGL one I went to was 9/10 for almost the whole show.
you hear mgs, you do not like it and now you think that everything at play is crap?! vgl is using playback which makes it much more emberrasing in my book.
eminence obviously is using selfmade student arrangemts. they might be made with a lot of love and effort, but ... ...

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I don't see how someone like Seraph, who has spoken with alot of Japanese composers can be considered unprofessional,
1. how many japanese composers. two or three?!! 2. he has no right to tell their opinions in the public, period.

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He like you, wants VGM to be known to more people, his concerts barely get much profit and money was never the intention.
i am getting sick of that crap, sorry. if he canot make any money, it is his problem. it just sounds like a stupid excuse to me. if he cannot make people attending his concerts and at least cover costs, there might be a serious quality issue with eminece as well, dunno.

sooorry for a quite harsh posting. i just couldnt believe what i was reading here. i do not give a damn on play, vgl, eminence and whatever, their leaders are about selfpromotion only... i wish these kind of concerts would have never spread out outside of japan, this is when all the rubbish started to happen!!!

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Old Oct 9, 2006, 08:55 AM #2 of 44
Originally Posted by -=SeRaPH=-
2) Composer's frustration is a well known fact in the Japanese VGM industry. And who mentioned my good friend Mitsuda and Sakimoto's name anyway? I for one never mentioned anything like that on any public forums.
phew. now it even is the whole jap vgm indusry. who is it? curious curious curious. or is that a secret?
regarding mitsuda and sakimoto, recenty several photos appeard on the net where you are posing with your dear good old friends. that told a lot about who were the ppl treated badly...

Originally Posted by -=SeRaPH=-
apologise in making you upset Mr Maul. I hope I can raise my professionalism a little more but I can't help thinking about my online professionalism when you told me thus in a PM to me a week or two ago:
that sucks indeed. god guys, what is wrong with you. instead of working togeter in a industry that hardly somebody from "outside" cares for you are false, talking behind ppl back and so on. how old are you?!!

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Old Oct 14, 2006, 07:29 AM #3 of 44
Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
It's clear that there are a lot of misconceptions about VGL going about due to propaganda etc. and I'm glad you were able to clear them up.
'he gave his perspective on the topic'. i have a hard time beliving that everything he said MUST be right suddenly. no offense, t. t., i would not trust jason michel paul or whoevr. both of you are too much into promoting your own thign. t. t. obviously is very very clever in doing so.

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I have little idea what to think other than it has become one big mess. Maybe PLAY! is the only enemy in this, though I still feel Seraph acted unprofessionally and find it regrettable that you and Jason are clearly at war (though you seem to have good reason).
it is not regrettabel, it should put both in shame because they are adults and no children anymore.

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