George Lucas to make big announcement tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Monkey King

Don't even get me started on the emperor's retarded flying son with lightsabers in all his joints.

Is that from the awful Dark Empire comic series? Where Luke temporarily falls to the dark side to serve this "reborn" emperor, then only to find out he was pretending the whole time?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LeHah

Dark Empire was fair.

Fine. But I still think Luke faking everyone out by not really turning to the dark side was pure shit. AND it forced KJ Anderson to restructure his story for the Jedi Academy Trilogy, which I happened to enjoy, even though that has its fair share of haters too.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Omi-Cron Kenobi

I wish I had my comic here with me but wasn't it implied early on that Luke did it, like Anakin, so that he could get in a better position to destroy Palpatine's clone? The suspense lies in the audience thinking "shit, he went too far and now he actually is using the Dark side."

Yeah but that whole concept completely spits in the face of Yoda saying "once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." The comic made it seem like it's just switching it on and off, which trivialized turning to the dark side.

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I love most of the books, probably because I'm such a blind Star Wars fan. The ones that were sort of trash were the Black Fleet series. Shadows of the Empire was cool though.

I for some reason enjoyed the Black Fleet Crisis. It was a departure from normal Star Wars plots, but I found it oddly refreshing. I hated the garbage by Barbara Hambly though... whatever titles she wrote.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by LeHah

I don't see how - since DE was released in 1991 (meaning it was probably being written in 1990), while KJA's crap was done three or four years after.

There's an interview with Anderson in one of the very early Star Wars Insiders where he says he was on the phone with Tom Veitch - author of Dark Empire - and he said that he had to change most of the beginning of Jedi Search, because Veitch planned to leave Coruscant in ruins. Dark Empire ends essentially where Jedi Search picks up.

Not only that, but in Vision of the Future, Zahn basically expresses his distate for the Dark Empire story by giving Luke lines like "yeah I was an idiot and didn't know what I was thinking."

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by LeHah

Blame LucasLicensing for allowing Veitch to do that.

Okay, I do.

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Not to mention, KJA isnt exactly the most... mature of sci-fi authors. More than once he's struck back at people who (rightfully) chastize his books.

It's been years since I read the trilogy; I read Jedi Search before the other two sequels were even published... I just remember enjoying them at the time. What sort of things has he said to critics??

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

"Kyp's lightsaber is TWICE AS LONG!"

That was Gantoris, and he died quickly anyway.

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"Despite the Emperor's bigotry towards women THERES A YOUNG FEMALE ADMIRAL WORKING AT A SECRET MILITARY INSTALLATION"

That was mostly due to the amount of clout Tarkin had. He pulled a lot of strings to get her there, and even then she was relegated to the middle of a black hole cluster, out of the way of everything. Why aren't you complaining about Thrawn, since Palpatine had an equal bias against non-humans? Just because Thrawn kicked ass?

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Fucking UGH. Its like fanfiction except he makes money off of it.

I'm not necessarily defending this trilogy because I love it. I don't. I just thought they were decent.

Originally Posted by Omi-Cron Kenobi

I remember at the end of one of his books, probably one of the Jedi Search ones, it vaguely mentioned a woman secretly escaping from the Star Destroyer she was in in a losing battle. It seemed to be a loose end KJA was leaving behind to cover in another book but I never really got closure on that. I wonder if that's the Admiral you're talking about.

This loose end is wrapped up (kind of neatly, if I remember?) in Darksaber.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by LeHah

Because Zahn can actually write. He's won Nebula Awards and whatnot.

I wholeheartedly agree Zahn is a far superior author and storyteller. But don't complain that females are in the Imperial Navy - due to an author's bad decision, no less - and then not complain that aliens - albeit competent ones - being in the Navy is any less stupid. Just because the creator of one such character is a vastly better author than another doesn't excuse the contradiction. Besides, there are other females in positions of power in the Empire: Isard, Leonia Tavira, and Mara Jade come to mind for me right away. [/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Omi-Cron Kenobi

That nonhuman thing that acted as the focal point for the accumulated Jedi power to destroy that ancient Sith spirit? I vaguely remember him using it, but Kyp definitely used the lightsaber length enhancement too. Corran Horn did too later on.

That was Exar Kun - an exiled Sith Lord from thousands of years ago - I never got into that whole comic series. I kind of wish I did though, it seems pretty fascinating. Gantoris was one of Luke's first recruits; I forget which planet he found him on. They fought each other in the Yavin jungle. I honestly don't remember Kyp or Corran extending their lightsabers.[/quote]

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So it was Daala?

Yeah Daala.

FELIPE NO

Well, if your entire argument is based solely on the quality of the writing (something that wasn't explicitly clear to me until you mentioned it), then I see your point.

I haven't read the newer Zahn books. I was thinking of picking up Outbound Flight when I saw it in a bookstore once but didn't. To me there's a kind of charm about Zahn's earlier books when he references the Old Republic and you know it was made without knowledge of the prequels' story. I reread the Thrawn trilogy every few years.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?