So, they're cutting down on liquids that can be carried on planes...

Here is a partial list of the suspects names, Abdula Ali, Cossor Ali, Shazad Ali, Nabeel Hussain, Tanvir Hussain, Umair Hussain, Umar Islam, Waseem Kayani, Assan Khan, Waheed Khan, Osman Khatib, Abdul Patel, Tayib Rauf, Muhammed Saddique, Assad Sarwar, Ibrahim Savant, Amin Tariq, Shamin Uddin, Waheed Zaman.

Yet 70 year old Phyllis Nordberg of St. Paul now can't bring hand lotion on the plane. Much better to inconvenience everyone than to actually look closer at the real suspects, wouldn't want to offend anybody, so lets take away a 4 year olds sippy cup....because you never know!!!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Doesn't solve all problems, but a little common sense wouldn't hurt. Take random bag checks on NYC subways. They check every 4th bag for instance, so if bag #4 is Ethyl Rosenberg, it gets checked, while Ibrahim Mohammad, next in line, gets a pass. This makes no sense, yet the risk is taken because its more important not to offend anyone than to actually enforce workable security.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm not suggesting racially profiling every brown person, but there seems to be this wild over reaction to a group of Muslims and their actions. It still seems ludicrous to stop everything and make grandma throw out her hand lotion, just to be all inclusive. And the Muslims in England are still bitching because the names of the terrorists were released, because of course people will see that the terrorists were all Muslims.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by a lurker

The ones who phoned in the tip that lead to the arrests were Muslim too. o shi-

Yes, this is true, and very comendable, but, instead of making a statement along the lines of " We won't tolerate these terrorists in our community and will turn them in"...we get the usual "Muslim as victim" response. Everytime something happens involving Muslim terrorists we get the same old song and dance of "Oh don't pick on us poor Muslims, we so afraid of your hateful reprisals"..which seldom happen by the way.

As to profiling and common sense, if there was a 6 ft tall red headed white guy kidnapping children in an area, the police wouldn't be stopping old ladies and investigating them. Yet when a definable group of people is responsible for 95% of the terrorist actions in recent times, there is a fear of paying closer attention to them because we don't want to offend anybody.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by a lurker

So press releases are more important than ratting out actual terrorists?

No, not at all, but in todays victim mentality society, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the Muslims have figured out how to squeak very loudly. They'll claim racism and bigotry and fear of retaliation everytime one of their own is caught doing something bad. The powers that be respond to all this whining with assurances that no one will dare pick on the poor oppressed Muslim and security will be even handed and across the board, thus, grandma from Des Moines is treated as just as much of a threat as Abdul standing behind her in line. The Muslim as victim goes way beyond this. They're the victims of Israel, they're the victims of the U.S., they're the victims of European bigotry, they're the victims of Indian aggression, of the Phillipine government..the list goes on. They never do seem, however, to acknowledge when other Muslims victimize Muslims. 47 dies at the hands of Muslims in Iraq yesterday and the Muslim response is nonexistant, but let Isreal kill a handful, or let an American bomb miss and the hue and cry is deafening.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by a lurker

Talk about victim mentality.

And where is that post is a victimized attitutde? Maybe a fed up attitude, tired of all the Muslim whining. If they want to stop being profiled...stop killing people..pretty simple, but they tolerate terrorists for the same reason they tolerate Muslim on Muslim violence...because the terrorists are Muslims..and the rest of us are filthy unwashed infidels..deserving of our fates.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by acid

You really don't understand anything, do you?

How about you explain it then. Explain why 90% of the terrorism in the world is perpetrated by Muslims. Explain why we've seen no massive protests by Muslims against Muslim terrorists. Explain why in every part of the world where a Muslim country borders a non Muslim country there is fighting. Explain why, whenever Muslims begin to attain a majority or at least a sizable minority they begin to demand changes in the laws of that nation. Please, enlighten me.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by a lurker

god, you want capital-m Muslims to knock on your door and personally apologise whenever someone does something shitty. Christians do shitty stuff all the time, but I don't ask for the pope to kiss my ass every time Fred Phelps protests a solider's funeral.

It doesn't even matter to you that they DO, very publically, condemn terrorism to the point where they will help fight against it. You're just being hella whiny because they're not doing it right.

Please detail the shitty stuff done recently by Christians in the name of Jesus. Don't drag out the tiny amount of times that a so called Christain nut job bombs an abortion clinic. Its hard for you, I know, but try to avoid moral relativism and give me examples of the worldwide Christain terror organizations and their nefarious acts. I can't seem to remember christaisn beheading people and shouting "Glory to jesus" while doing it. Christians haven't been plotting mass murder on the scale of our Religion of peace buddies.

As for Muslim condemnation of terror...if they're going to whine and protest evertime they are the victims of some perciebed wrong at the hands of the infidels, surely they've got the time to protest the actions of their murderous brethren. Please give me examples or links that i can look up regarding large anti-terror protest conducted by Muslims. If they sit by silently what else can be judged except that they give tacit approval to the actions of the terrorists. A simple Google search of "muslim anti terror protests" reveals alot of links to Muslims protesting anti terror LAWS, but almost none on Muslims actually protesting against terrorism. If the shoe fits.....

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by a lurker

Sure, that's called 'representation'.

Representation is different than using ones religion to institute a civil code.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=35850

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by a lurker

Why not.?

Because its a lame argument based on misguided moral relativism. How many have been killed in these abortion clinic attacks? How often are they taking place. What percentage of the worldwide christian community is behind them. Your idea likening abortion clinic bombings to worldwide Islamic terrorism is like saying Stalin is the equal of a thug who shoots a convenience store owner. The fact that Stalin killed 25 million and the thug killed 1 is irrelevant...right???

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by a lurker

What, mentioning that it's terrorism means that it's the Pepsi to islamofacists' Coke?

You can't be that stupid. Yes its terrorism, but the murder of 7 people since the 80's is nowhere near the scale of what we're talking about when it comes to islamic terrorists. So you must also be saying that the Earth Liberation Front of enviroterrorists are also just as big a threat and problem as Islamic terrorists...I guess they're R.C cola then...after all moral relativism demands they all be placed in the same collective boat in your world.

So beyond your weak attempt to link abortion bombing with worldwide Islamic terro, you've failed to give any other examples of "shitty" Christian behavior on par with "shitty" Muslim behavior.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Once again, you've failed actually answer any questions or use any facts to support your lame assertions. You truly are "hopeless".

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.