Does Obama have a chance?

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Oh, and yeah, Obama ain't gonna win. Much as I'd love to see that happen, it isn't going to. America just isn't ready for a black muslim president with only two years experience as a junior senator, any more than it is for a foul-mouthed atheist stand up comic. (s'up Stanhope)

Didn't someone on the last page bust the "Muslim" myth?


Anyway. On the last page there were some really good points. I guess Bush is irrelevant since he's done his term, but who's this new guy the Repubs are putting up? What experience credentials does he have?


I think a balance of charisma and experience is essential. Being either a long-term Congressman or a glib talker are useful skills, but in isolation do not a good President make, not necessarily, anyway.

Seems funny to me that people can make such sweeping statements, like charisma and experience are needed, while ignoring a bunch of other factors, like say whether they have good vision for the country, what their stance is on issues that matter, whether they can run the economy etc etc.

Also, I still don't understand how GWB can be considered charismatic, when he says rhetoric so meaningless about issues so important, he makes the US look very, very poor. I still wonder why people consider Al Gore such a 'loser' when that's the 'winner'.

But, back to Obama. He seems OK, but we all know in the USA, there's plenty of mud to go around yet. Can't say I particularly like any of the Presidential candidates put forward, but that's probably what US citizens have had to deal with for decades, so I shouldn't complain.


Democrats have no problems with money, either. They had more than the Republicans at the last Presidential election.

Sorry for all the OT stuff guys, just jumping in at the deep end as always, sorry if I offended anyone (it's after 3am and I had a shit day).

- Spike

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I do have to agree with the experience argument as far as "Governors make good candidates" goes. We're seeing here in Australia more and more, local mayors running for the district election in the Federal Government elections. They have experience in the area and are well-known.

I wonder what US people (read: voters) away from Illinois think or know of the guy.


I guess the reason I support him, even though lack of experience, etc etc is that so far, he seems far better than Clinton, McCain et al.

And in that sense I agree with the 'charisma is important' argument. I mean, the US needs a President who won't turn people/nations off, who will play a different role in the international community. Obama is certainly a better diplomat than your Clintons and most Republican candidates I've seen.


Incidentally, who the hell's Mitt Romney? Only heard about him yesterday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN...LEFEATURE_iran
Whee..


I mean, at least Obama sounds normal and not uberconservative- two steps forward from potential Republican candidates.
And you can bandy around and talk about 'experience' all you want- but it doesn't mean it was good experience, or that they're not a total asshole or crappy leader. Look at Australia's Prime Minister, eons of experience, worst leader we've ever had.

- Spike

There's nowhere I can't reach.