THE RiPPERS' STASH (Game Rips Directory Ideas)

EDIT: The focus of newer posts in this thread is currently that of cubed's site "THE RiPPER'S STASH". What begins here is discussion I initiated that eventually let to the current state.

Okay, I've been meaning to create this thread for a while, but I'm prone to procrastinate. cubed used to have a nice index of game rips available, but his site is down now. He's in the process of building a new one, but I don't know how long that will take. God knows I take forever to do anything of that size.

So what I'm proposing is something to hold us over until then. I want to make a directory of game rips, and I'd like to actually include the "games that need to be ripped" in with this project. I'm talking about an actual website as opposed to a GFF thread, because the list won't do us any good when the boards have crashed. Maybe we'll use a little coding, maybe not. I don't plan to make it nearly as robust as cubed's site was, but I at least want to make the information easily available to people.

So help me brainstorm. I have the webspace, all I need is the input.

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I was thinking maybe we can use some pre-made software to take care of this. I think a wiki would be more than needed, so I don't really want to deal with that. If anybody knows of any software that would be perfect for this cause, list it here.

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A GMR-like website would be fine. However, one problem I have with that site is that it has no auditing, so it's prone to vandalism wiping out data permanently. If we could keep some sort of data history, that would be great.

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic

Though, I don't see an alphabetical listing it's probably not needed since there's a lot of stuff.

They have one. Under the textbox and drop-down-lists it says:

or browse by Album Title Catalogue # Release Date

Just click "Album Title".


Also, cubed, PHP is fine.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

cubed, I can set you up with an account on my server and you can run wild.

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I think "anonymous" contribution would be fine, so long as there is a data history. However, user accounts are good as well.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I don't think we'll have a problem with people posting fake rips. File availability from the directory site wasn't a requirement at cubed's last site, and yet things were still very organized. Most of the time, people's rips can be found on the various FTPs here at GFF. If someone submits a rip that nobody can find, then obviously it will be removed.

Also, in the case of multiple rips, cubed's site previously just listed all available rips from a game. A rating system may be a welcome addition, however.

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Originally Posted by Unagi

I remember cubed's site, "CubeWorld" or something, had a "z" in it somewhere. Nice place, but I only recall one rip per title being listed. That was why it was so organized, wasn't it? It was well done, for what it did. However, a directory it was not, more a repository.

Most of the games listed only had one rip, but a couple had multiple rips.

Personally...I think registration would indeed be a better idea, organization-wise. This was how cubed's site ran last time. The only problem was that it still lacked a lot of rips that were out there. Maybe some sort of hybrid of registered/anonymous would work.

Whatever we decide to do, I want to make sure it doesn't turn into a mess. If we have to be a little restrictive to do so, then so be it.

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One thing that could be done is to allow users to sign up and post rips from other people. The thing with cubed's site was that you could only post rips you did yourself. I think this might be a good solution.

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Unagi, I agree, of course. I don't expect someone to just list the name of a game or anything; we'll want as much information as possible. A tracklist should be a minimum requirement.

Oh, and if I haven't clarified it yet, I have actually set cubed up with server space and he is working on putting together a site to use. I'll make sure these suggestions get run by him as the rules are to be constructed.

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Originally Posted by neothe0ne

Maybe what I'm saying is that it would be nice to have the ability to just copy and paste a block of text up there, such as from foobar2000's copy function, which will display the titles, lengths, and track numbers or something like that (yes, I realize that'd be just like a Wiki). But I'd be all for a site just like GMR/Cubed's World as well, so long as it stays around.

I could work with him to write a text parser. I agree that it would be a good idea.

Too bad the GFA development board got wiped. I'd like to swipe some of the ideas they had for the big soundtrack DB.

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FYI, please post any tracklists in [ spoil ] tags so that it will save space. Thanks.

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cubed seems to be busy with other stuff, so his site will have to wait for now. I still want to get this info collected, however. In any case, collected data can be transfered to his site if/when needed.

What do you guys think is the fastest way to collect and display information. As I said in my original post, it doesn't need to be fancy. I'd like to get as much info as I can find for each rip too. This will help with quality control.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Right now I would like to know which software or storage method would be best to use, first and foremost.

By the way, thanks for all the input, everyone.

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That sounds great, Klondike. I know a custom format is best; I just can't do it all by myself. I think the first order of business would to make a database schema.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I haven't made any progress here. I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing any more. In order to get a successful collection of rip info, a good amount of effort and planning will need to be put into developing a system for managing this information. With so many other projects I'm working on, I simply do not have the time to initiate the creation of such a system.

Sorry to get anyone's hopes up. However, anyone is free to take up the reigns here. Also, this doesn't mean I can't help out in some way.

Nevertheless, I am committed to assist with the GFA project, and being that we plan to have it catalog game rips, it may supercede anything that would come about as the result of this thread.

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Originally Posted by seanne

So does this mean that GFA is in active development again? Because that would be pretty good news.

We're trying to get the ball rolling on GFA again, but a large part of this hinges on bobo. Right now we're trying to make it so that staff can handle the development when bobo is not around.

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Originally Posted by cubed

As I said in your Lemmings PSP gamerip request, I'll have more free time, so I'll be able to continue to script for gamerips' stash website.

First I need update:
- Anonymous submission allowed ?
- Able to register freely ?
- Only me or Kaleb can add new users ?
- Gamerip submission: how to submit. Freestyle or cubed world old-fashioned way ? Or both ??

As far as anonymous submissions go, I say they should be allowed, but must be approved by one of us before appearing to the public.

For Gamerip submission, I think both is a good idea. You or I could probably create an easy way to switch between them in the database if we think about it.

As far as registration goes, I'm not really sure...

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Originally Posted by cubed

what we would need (for the download section) is dedicated mirrors FTP. Which would only host gamerips (with a separate login if they are currently offering FTP service for their own stuffs).

I think that could be done. I know there are some poeple who have dedicated rip accounts/servers as is. I might even be able to host some as well, both on kg13.com and my home PC.

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I, personally, prefer the big box with parsing goodness.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The site is looking great so far. I'll try to get around to helping out with it soon.

P.S. You may want to actually hyperlink your signature to the site.

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Originally Posted by cubed

@ kaleb: would a tracker on your server be a good idea for the rips ?

That's fine by me. As long as I don't have to set it up (because I don't have a clue how).

I was speaking idiomatically.

cubed, is there anyway I can make a gamerip listing link to an HTTP download? I have my rips hosted for download via HTTP.

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Originally Posted by cubed

direct download from the tracklist (click on the track individually to download) or simply a field with the url of the root where the rip is located ?

Either is fine, but the first one would be a lot cooler, IMHO.

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Infernal Monkey has recently joined us as a ripper. ='D

He has a test run rip here, but he plans to make some serious rips soon.

cubed, if you want me to take care of simple duties like adding new rippers to the database, I can do that.

Also, as a general note, I make database backups of my entire server about every week, so everyone can be assured that all information will be safe from destruction.

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Originally Posted by kuttlas

I don't need them for any rips I've done just yet but you might consider adding these systems since I have seen rips in the past:

Amiga CD32
Atari Jaguar
Atari Lynx
Bandai Wondersawn/Color
NEC PC-88
NEC PC-9801
NEC PC-Engine
NEC PC-Engine Super CD
Nokia N-Gage
Panasonic 3DO
Philips CD-i
Sega 32X
SNK Neo Geo
SNK Neo Geo Pocket/Color

Also I think Computer should be divided into Windows PC and Mac.

I added the systems you listed, but about the computer thing, I'll leave that up to cubed.

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