Atheist parents!

My mom had a decent method I think. She just let us choose whatever, and doesn't judge us for whatever religion we choose. She also likes the fact that me and my sister go to a church, because we have another form of support other than home. She didn't go out of her way to inform us about religion or anything, but she didn't stop us from learning when we did find out about it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Oh god, this thread is transitioning from "Athiest Parents" into "Listen to LordsSword Preach". Dude, its cool that ya wanna share your faith, but you just sound like an idiot when you spout it off like you do. Noone is gonna take you seriously. Maybe if your reasoning for the things you did wasn't just "the bible says so", you'd have a little more luck sounding intelligent and less fanatical. ANNNNyyyyhowwww. back on topic

Since we were talking about santa claus. My mom didn't actively promote santa claus per say. There were usually one or two gifts under the tree from santa claus, but it was usually painfully obvious that it was our wrapping paper, and my mom's handwriting. So I always knew it was her. In fact, I usually got conscripted into helping wrap gifts on christmas eve for my little brothers who at the time still pretended to believe in santa claus. So my mom pretended to believe that they still believed and thus still put gifts from santa under the tree. I'll probably end up doing the same for my kids too. I guess it's just a family thing.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

If my kids decide to start believing in some imaginary being, or God, or whatever they may come up with. Who am I to stop them? Who am I to deny them something that makes them happy.
I won't go as far to say that they'll start lying, stealing and cheating if they don't get a chance to believe in such stuff. But I do think that at a young age, before kids can discern the difference between what is positive and what is negative to it's fullest extent, they should have as many positive influences (bliss and carefree imagination perhaps? belief in a jolly fat guy who brings gifts?). This goes a long way towards filling their hearts/minds with positive things, and if it's only positive stuff going in, then it can be assumed that positive stuff will come out.

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Magic exists in many places. God doesn't need to be the only constant in the realm of miracles.

Who said that God is the only constant. God fits into the broader category of 'beneficial magic'. Read before uttering robotic responses of a devil's advocates nature.

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Who said anything about shielding kids from different views? The whole point of Pretzel's original post was just to say that you shouldn't shield them from such things as Santa and God. Don't force it on them I guess, but don't feel like you can't teach them about it either.

How ya doing, buddy?

Here's how I understood that:

Everyone is fixated on pleasing themselves. They figure 'Hey, I wanna have casual, uncomplicated sex with no strings attached? Yah, I'll do it' and not feel guilty about it. It's not so much the act of sex itself, but the general idea that everyone is out to please themselves and only themselves. That everyone is fixated on doing what is best for them in the long run.

I don't know if he's saying "Oh, can't let my kids know about that" or if he's saying "I'll encourage them not to take that path, and explain to them why I don't think they should, but in the end I'll have to accept the fact that they will be free to do as they please. I just hope they respect me in what they do"

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't think God is a scam and occassionally I'm not a good person

Explain that one as well LordsSword

(Also, leave, because you keep making a mockery of a religion that I enjoy being apart of. It's people like you that make others view us as a joke.)

FELIPE NO

So you're saying that athiests don't know how to be good? So you're only good if you do what it says in the bible? It says in the bible that it isn't through our works that we'll get into heaven, but by believing that the only son of God, Jesus, died on the cross to save us from our sin. So if it doesn't matter what we do, why would God bother making a guide for us?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by LordsSword

I asked the question "good based on whose definition?" for a reason.
Sure they can be "good" but based on what system.
Society, history & experience are very fluid concepts depending on where you are and when you are in the world.
Remember I go by a 2000 yr. old book that was considered "good" for society at one time. Now its heavily disputed.

Of course it's heavily disputed. I dispute it all the time. It was written 2000 years ago, and now we have goofs like you trying to apply it like it was written yesterday. Yes, I admit, the bible has some awesome advice, and it's neat to read. But in today's society, we can't take it word for word. You have to take it with a grain of salt.

How ya doing, buddy?