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E machine pc, buy or not buy?
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Old Jul 15, 2006, 11:08 PM Local time: Jul 16, 2006, 05:08 AM #1 of 27
Not buy. This is a company I've learned not to trust. The PC they sold my dad simply didn't have the specs that it was described as having. Naturally he got his money back, even though they had some complex reason why this was actually OK.

Another person I know bought a PC from them, and his was actually as described, but it was completely impossible to upgrade in any way. The case didn't have any extra space, and all the components were fixed in place with some kind of resin or glue.

Admittedly this experience was about four years ago, but I'm not about to trust them again, and my advice wouldn't be for you to trust them either. Not all the PCs on that advert are eMachines, mind you. If you don't mind that you won't be able to upgrade your PC, then maybe you'll be OK, but I don't recommend it.

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Old Jul 15, 2006, 11:32 PM Local time: Jul 16, 2006, 05:32 AM #2 of 27
Originally Posted by SeanParnika
But does emachine make a reliable product?
I suppose you could call it that. They never actually fell apart, or anything like that. That's about the most positive thing that I could say about the eMachines PCs that I've known though.

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 11:03 AM Local time: Jul 16, 2006, 05:03 PM #3 of 27
Originally Posted by BlueMikey
Perhaps these are good reasons not to buy one, but, then again, he said all he wants to do is surf the web and write some letters. I know a lot of us are computing elitists, but you don't need extra slots or fancy computer insides to do those two things, especially not on a budget.
As long as you're claiming that it takes an elitist to want something that's not a total piece of junk, I'm not reading from precisely the same page as you. While admittedly some of these things are not what will matter to the user in question, they speak to the quality of the computers produced by the company.

Originally Posted by Packrat
the heatsink for the chipset chip, or northbridge, or whatever it is called, was glued on, when it should have been pinned down. After a while, the heatsink just dropped off.
It's not as though this is the sort of thing that only matters to an elitist, is it? O_o

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 07:21 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2006, 01:21 AM #4 of 27
Originally Posted by BlueMikey
I fail to see how. You are faulting a company for producing products for people without useless features?
Not really. I tend to thing that those "useless" features are important even to a consumer with limited needs, which is why I'm choosing to highlight the lack of them in the products of this particular company, but I also believe that such extreme cost-cutting can only yield a final product with a build quality which is questionable at best. One of the main ways in which a company can can cut prices is to reduce the quality of the final product.

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Old Jul 16, 2006, 08:07 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2006, 02:07 AM #5 of 27
Originally Posted by Vampiro
Good example of that: Dells. It's not that it's a shitty product, but you can definitely tell they cut a lot of corners. It's actually quite needlessly difficult to upgrade anything more advanced than RAM.
I'm not even talking about the ability to upgrade, though, I'm talking about two things. Physical build quality, which impacts reliability, and quality of components, which impacts longevity. BlueMikey rightly stated that there are users for whom the ability to upgrade is a non-issue.

I also have to say, although it undermines the credibility of my own argument to a degree, I don't find that Dell computers are of an especially low quality compared to most off-the-shelf machines. I know a few people who use Dell machines, and I'd find it hard to identify any real problem with most of them that wasn't the fault of the user. The upgrade issue does exist, but anyone who really cares about upgrading in a serious way should be building their own machine.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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