[Movie] Star Trek (2009)

Originally Posted by sprouticus

However, I *have* always wanted to get into the Trek series of films and TV. Where would be a good place to start with doing that?

Any series can serve as a starting point. You can either watch the original series from way back when or start with any of the subsequent series. I'd probably recommend you start with The Next Generation though. If only because during the latter seasons, they start to develop a story arc that continues to some extent throughout whatever came afterwards. Political events in the furthest reaches of known space effectively set up all that is to follow. You don't need to know the backstory to watch Voyager, for example... it just adds colour.

Wouldn't recommend starting with the films. They assume a great deal of prior knowledge about the characters and situations. If you want to start with the original series, then you'll probably get a more historical perspective on the events which follow... but many episodes are a bit weak. Mind you, the same could be said for the first couple of seasons of any other Star Trek. It seems to take these series about two seasons to really hit stride. I wouldn't skip the early episodes of any series because they establish the characters, but be prepared for some weak episodes.

If you do watch some of the films, skip the first and fifth. I can honestly say that I wouldn't subject anyone to those, even an enemy.

The most recent series, Enterprise, is a prequel to the whole saga. The others follow on the chronology in approximately broadcast order. It blows chunks. Don't watch, unless you feel like punishing yourself.

With regards to the trailer... it looks like a Michael Bay movie. Fuck that noise.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Start with the first show and just work your way up. Be sure to ignore the internet along the way - Enterprise is excellent and DS9 is a brilliant back-hand commentary toward Roddenberry's idea of utopia.

Wait, what? I totally agree with your assessment of DS9, but Enterprise is supposed to be excellent now? I ditched it... I think before the season finalé. I'm asking you honestly, no bullshit.... did it improve a ton and a half suddenly in season 2? It would have to!

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Originally Posted by LeHah

People are retarded about Enterprise because they don't understand the premise. They think its just a ham-fisted ST show that attempts to prequel the ST universe.

Honestly I just thought the acting was below feeble in some cases, and it put me right off. The premise worked for me, it really did. Just not the execution.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I'm sure the internet follows your gold standard of good and bad.

Hey I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but I can't really call the performances of most of the cast good by my own standards.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

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Opinion. Everyone has one. Like I said, I won't be surprised if nobody agrees. It just happens to be my personal take on Enterprise that I've seen puppets which were substantially less wooden. As for your post, at least give me something to work with. If you think I'm wrong or that I said something stupid and you tell me, then at least I can discuss that with you. I don't even know how to respond to that.

When I say 'by my standards' I mean, "by the standards against which I measure good acting, based on what I've seen so far in my lifetime." I assume that was understood, but you seem to find something objectionable about it.

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Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

See, my problem with DS9 is that it was pretty horrid to start with,

I don't recall it ever being that bad. The worst episode of DS9 is still better than (to pull a random example) The Naked Now (TNG 1x03) and much of the rest of TNG's early output, which was often mediocre and occasionally abysmal. It had at least some interesting characters.

Though LeHah obviously thinks I'm a moron (hey, it happens to most people some day) I agree with what he's got to say about DS9. It was by far the most intelligently written of all the Star Trek series for me.

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