[360] Xbox 360 Discussion. Thermal paste, the delicious and nutricious snack of the future.

It's all in what you're looking for. I like the characters and the use of an actual physics engine in SR as well as the aiming and the larger variety of cars, though it is missing helicopters and motorbikes. San Andreas was just far too big for my liking, I found CJ to be a pussy, and the characters were just steriotypical and bland. (Not that SR was a world better in that department though either) In the end though I think that SR is perfectly capable of entertaining me until GTA4 comes out, and if they screw GTA4 past the things that they screwed up in GTA:SA I'll probably be going back to SR... but that's just my opinion.

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Jam it back in, in the dark.

Actually it won't. They are updating the system to output 1080p, but the games still won't be a native 1080p so while you'll be able to output it, it will look better when set on 720p. The PS3 on the other hand will be a native 1080p, so when you hook up your 1080p component, or HDMI it is a TRUE 1080p, not a converted 720p to 1080p.

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If they do make the future games to run in a native 1080p, the performance of the games will take a hit, unlike the PS3 that is designed to run in 1080p and therefore it will run in the resolution without having to devert power from other resources just to output 1080p like the 360 will be doing.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Either way though, if you put the same game on both the 360 and the PS3 running at 1080p, and make it something graphic intensive... let's say Ninja Gaiden 2. The 360 would have a much larger likelyness of having performance glitches then the PS3, that's all I'm trying to say. Obviously it takes more power to make anything a higher resolution, hence why the PS1 was in 640/320 and the PS2 was in like 1024/768 (or something)

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Unfortunatly M$ said that the HD-DVD drive will not and cannot be used for games, so get ready for future games to have disc swapping.

As for TGS, Trusty Bell looked good, but a bit generic to me. Also Namco arn't the best RPG developers around, Xenosaga was good, but it still had some mahor flaws. Blue Dragon looks awesome to me however. As soon as I saw White Knight Story for the PS3 though, I knew that THAT is a TRUE next-gen RPG.

Unfortunatly it's been hard for me to find coverage on many of the other 360 titles because it seems that Sony overtook this years TGS.

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You're a smart one arn't ya? ^^
Looking things up in Japanese and everything. As for IGN, I'll have to go there and check it out. (hoping for a new podcast soon on TGS)

As for Trusty Bell, if it has a music theme to it that hasn't been covered yet then perhaps I'll have to keep an eye on it yet. Last RPG with music based battle system was Rhapsody for the PS1... it wan't all that great ^^;

I was speaking idiomatically.

The graphics just get AA 2x added to it so stuff just doesn't look as jagged that's all. As for bugs I haven't had anything major, just if you use your HDD on a friends 360 and try to resume your game it'll corrupt the file so be warned.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It's a real kick in the ass that it's coming out this soon to people who already have them of course, but seeing how major the enhancements are I think it's better for MS to release it sooner rather then later to save them from pissing more people off, especially seeing how 360's are going to be on 24/7 once HALO3 comes out.

Likely enhancements:
Better processor
Better & quieter cooling system

Known enhancements:
HDMI Port
Larger HDD

Wishful enhancements:
HD-DVD drive

Here's some speculation made by the public & GameSpot;
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_bl...74&sid=6163826

And here's video proof that the Xbox 365 is REAL;
http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=32321

FELIPE NO

Also if there is more content like the Ghost Recon AW expansion pack which was around 1.2 Gigs for future games your 12Gigs (because you don't get access to 8Gigs) will run out fast. Also Final Fantasy 11 takes something like 3 or 4 Gigs itself too. However the whole HDD thing was a scam from the get go when they advertised that you get a 20Gig HDD but don't tell you that you really only get to use 12Gigs. Heck for the price of a 12Gig HDD for my 360 I could get a 120Gig HDD for my PS3, MS isn't being too competitive now are they?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I said this when the 360 came out, and I'll say it again, they should have waited and spent the extra time making sure that the console was ready to go out the door before releasing it. Instead we got a system that had a 16% launch failure rate, noisy as hell fans, crappy cooling system, and who knows what other corners they cut just to get it out the door... and they didn't even have all that great of games for launch that you couldn't just get on the PC or original X-box. Where as Sony & Nintendo might have taken longer, but their systems are much better designed.

How ya doing, buddy?

There are a lot of good games on and coming for the 360, so if you were to pick on up pengudeus, I don't think you'd regret it. It doesn't matter what system you get, there's always going to be games you'll be glad you got it for and games on other systems that make you wish you had them instead, but there's no way out of that if you only get one system.

My only issue with Microsoft has only ever been that they're always trying to buy companies instead of just doing joint operations like Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft's latest aquisition attempts, Capcom and Nintendo. However this is no fault of Xbox corp, nor does it decrease the quality of the system or games, so don't deprive yourself of games you want to play just due to a companies actions behind the curtains. However don't turn a blind eye either.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Seriously, you'd think with all the updates and the new SKU that have been done to make the system more like a PS3 or a PC or something, that they'd at LEAST have some competative pricing. I can get a 120Gig HDD for my PS3 for $80CAD, the new 360 120 HDD on it's own is around $200 according to IGN's 03/22/07 podcast is total bull. HDMI isn't that improved over component+optical to make it worth while either, especially since DVD doesn't have higher grades of surround sound like HD-DVD or BR-DVD. Besides, you're just going to get the 120Gig model to find that you don't have access to something like 80Gigs, just like the premium 360. 20Gigs my ass. I'll stick with the 360 I've got now, especially since it took 3 tries to get a system that lasted longer then three months.

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I can't really see people lineing up for the Elite system, or at least not camping for it. Considering that there's no huge titles other then GH2 coming out any time soon, anyone who would want the system would have gotten it by now. That and the fact that the Elite is more money, it's not like it's going to be a very convincing sale, if anything it's just closed the gap betweethe 360 and PS3 by a fair amount, both in features and price. I'm sure it'll create a sale spike, but there won't be that many more then the usual amount of new adopters, and a majority of sales will just be people trading up.

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There's always compatability issues between makes, but I find as long as you stick with name brand it's fine. The adapter in absurdly priced, but at the very least you do get a decent product. I got the adaptor back when I got my system and I've had no drop-outs or any issues while even hosting games to speak of. With a laptop scanner my signal reads about 70% at about 45feet away from my router to give you an idea what my operating stats are.

Considering the price I wouldn't use the adaptor unless you absolutely had to, but if you have to you know you should be alright as far as performance goes.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yeah. The technical breakup doesn't really count for much. Don't forget that EVERY game is counted in that breakdown. Including things like BomberMan Zero, Blazing Angels and the two-hundred sports games that've been released for 3 seasons now for every console going.

A way more accurate breakdown of 360 game percentages would require games to have an average rating over 50% and must be console exclusive. Then I'm sure that the FPS and 3PS percentages would make up for more then 50% of thoes games.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Yeah, that's usually what they say, but even that statistic itself is subject to itself which makes it more a reflection on todays society of stats and information then an actual statistical fact.

@Skills
My apoligies but without a source or more elaborate information at the time it sounded more like a fanboyistic defense statement then a fact. So it was natural that someone would question it's integrity without at least a source.

However I still believe that it isn't right to count multiplatform games in the stats. Like the sports and Action/Adventure genres make up like 52%. Which a majority of thoes are on other systems also which kind of defeats the prupose of the poller's point.

FELIPE NO

I don't think that they should be counted because if you can get them on any console, then they're a common factor which can be factored out of the equation breaking it down to more simpler and applicable figures.

A list of the studies included games would have been nice. (or I just haven't found it yet)

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Yeah I calculated it and I kind of blew my own theory up. I know that before that I mentioned about there being so many sports games on the console, but when I took a look at the data not many passed the 80% bar, so the genre kind of regulated itself out of the stats. Then when I eliminated the multi-platform games, the percentages didn't change very much, so yeah.

The chart seems to be a good representation of the titles on the 360 console.

@Elixir
Thoes are the types of games I like hence the origin of my bias in my X-box posts at times.

@Skills
I wasn't trying to achieve any specific goal, other then to get an accurate percentage of the game genre population of the console. I don't always have some evil agenda you know.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The 360 does all the HD stuff you need. Also I'm pretty certain that the definitions 720 and 1080 are 16:9/10 only(on most consumer electronics that is). Even so, the console itself DOES do 16:9 for all definitions.

How ya doing, buddy?

Most I can get for even $5. Only exception is probably Psychonaughts.

Oh well. If they make money they'll add more, if not this will probably all there will ever be. I personally don't care either way.

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