[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Shenlon: You think that X > XII, well I can't really argue you because I haven't played the game yet ^^; However I know that I love all the FF games (except IX) so I don't have any worries about XII. Myself I like FFVIII the best still so I'm waiting for a game to knock it of it's pedistal still (sort of)

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And the pretty graphics and cinematics won't hurt much either.

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Tell you the honest truth I never liked using summons and that of the sort. I rather do the work and level up my characters instead because you never know what the future may have in store for you in an FF game. For example the end of FFX where you had to kill your summons was a snap for me because I didn't overuse them.

Taisai: No game is perfect so whenever I do see a perfect score I usually ignore the review because I know that they're not going to show the pros and the cons of the product, however as you pointed out, FFXII is till well above your standard RPG.

Also I can't say for sure but I think Inhert was just talking about FFXI's battle-system, not the whole game.

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Same here ^^

Where abouts do you live? I live a bit east of Toronto and I dought that it's going to snow by tuesday, or at least any amount that will actually stop me from getting to EB.

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Kairi: That was a little extreme but I respect your opinion non the less. However there's yet to be an RPG that I've just sat down for a week straight to beat for a good while now. Last one I recall was either Xenosaga 2 or Nocturne. As for Okami being better then FFXII, I don't know how you can really say that where FF requires strategy, equipment, and the license board where Okami is a lot simpler and really isn't much of and RPG as it is an Action Adventure (yes there is a distinct difference). Unless you mean simply game of the year and then yes, I believe Okami has a good chance at winning that one. As for RPG of the year, even though I haven't played XII yet, there hasn't really been an epic RPG so far this year, and Devil Summoner was a let down.

I was speaking idiomatically.

VP2 was way too short though. As amazing as it's visuals, music and story were, there just wasn't enough of it.

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Wow, not too often I hear of stores holding launch parties for games. Other then that one game for the xbox. But hey, I'm sure that FF is big enough to make it worth while.

Simo: Yeah but my special copy from EB comes with a metal case, that way if my house burns down with my PS2 at least I'll still have my FFXII, lol.

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lol, I liked FF: DOC a lot myself too. ^^ Guess we're doomed to enjoy bad games. So while everyone else is playing FFXII and having a miserable time doing it, I guess we'll be the only ones enjoying ourselves, lol.

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Both sides exist to every argument the only difference is whether people want to hear it or not. When the thread started you only heard the good because if someone were to say something bad about the game everyone would bash them for it, whether they're right or wrong. I think now people are a bit more willing to listen to one another hence why you're hearing more negative things now because all the positive things have already pretty much been talked about. However I don't think that anyone's saying that FFXII is perfect, nor is it close to being in your nearest bargain bin anytime soon. We're just picking it apart and we've gotten to the final part which is always a things deepest, darkest secrets that in the big picture might not even matter all that much... depending on who you are and what you like.

But I think to any casual gamer or FF fan it can be disputed as to whether FFXII is the best one or not, but so can every other game in the series. No ONE person can say as to whether something's the best or not, and if you really want to know you're just going to have to play it. But whether it's the best or not, you know that it's still going to be darn good.

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I agree with you 100% Freelance Wolf. Constructive criticisim is the best kind of review, because it tell what one should keep on doing and what one should change. If both sides are taken seriously and followed things tend to improve over the last.

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LOL, that'll be the day. I think even if it were 5 times better then VII, it still probably wouldn't be enough to knock VII off it's blocks. But that's fine with me. It's not my favouriate, but I still like it a lot. Also I'm use to liking things that are sub "cool", I hate following crowds, so if XII did knock VII off it's pedistal, then I'd be forced to not like FFXII, lol. *kidding*

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Famitsu has credibility to it, and while I do enjoy PSM, I know that their opinion is obviously bias. And IGN is a joke in itself. They justify and can spell things just as good as any five-year-old. Don't believe me? Look at their review of God Hand, compare it to all the other reviews and also look at their mastery of the english language. Not only can they not spell, they also don't even write in coheirant terms half the time.

None the less, like I said we may be focusing on the small details that might detract from the game as of now, but no one's flat out calling FFXII bad. If you read previous posts you'd see that every other positive thing about the game has already been talked about. Obviously we'd have to move on to the things that are wrong with it eventually. And as I said in my second-last post, if you don't identify what's wrong with something, no matter how small it is, that something will never get better. It'll just be the same thing over and over and over again.

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Yeah, the battle system in X-2 while fast pace and cool for the watching, it wasn't really that hard nor that strategic. Just hold X and throw in the odd magic or special move and you win. And the job system had a cool implementation with the different costumes and weapons per each one. Too bad the gameplay was fuled by hard to enjoy content.

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Yeah, FFXII then Gears of War, then the PS3... man what a crazy month it's going to be for me. Nevermind an expensive month at that.

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If people were still wondering why the character development is a bit shallow and the story is more based on the world then it is the actual characters then here's your answers.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/742/742013p1.html

It would seem that FFXII was originally supposed to be an MMO just like FFXI, except at some point in development they decided to change directions and make it totaly seflf contained.

The interview also contains many other interesting facts about the game.

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I'm playing the game through surround sound and I haven't had any problems with the VO. I know that the opening and ending videos were mastered in Dolby Pro-Logic II so perhaps that efect the audio when played through stereo. I have no idea.

As for the VO, it IS really well done. The accents add a good aumbiance to the world because since theigh are neighbouring countries they should have similar, but different accents, which is where the Scottish & Irish come in. Also Fran's voice is quite different from the Jap version, but in my opinion the Eng one is better then the Jap actor.

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HAH! IGN... I'd be surprised if they could look past things like "production values", especially for a place that worships the ground uppon which Microsoft's built on and thinks that Halo is the most original thing ever.

However it would be interesting either way. For if they do fumble up the article like they do with everything else it should make a commical read, lol.

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