[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

I would say that it would just be easier to take it back to the store and exchange it for an actual USB wireless keyboard. That way you don't have to go through all that work and spend more money for that cable, besides it is their fault for telling you that it was USB so I dought that they'll give you too much trouble about it.

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With $21 MILLION and three times the team of Gurilla + SCEA... and then you add in the unknown limits of the Cell Processor... you can do all the theory you want, but I remember when BLACK was shown for the first time for the PS2 no one thought that it could be realtime on such underpowered hardware... and in the end it was RealTime... so who the hell really knows what Killzone 2 will end up being like, I don't think many games have ever gotten this many resources before to really find out.

For the Record GoW... the best looking game to date was $10 Million budget to put things into perspective.

Side NOTE: I remember on GameTrailers Bonus Round that one market analyst said that a game with a $40 Million + budget was just approved like three weeks ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Killzone 2 at this point... it's just too close to that that it isn't the same game.

FELIPE NO

I don't know why so many people want upscaling for the PS1/2 games. I ran the 360 in 1080P mode before it had native 1080P and at that time any game that wasn't meant for 1080 looked better in 720P, no contest. So in other words upscaling doesn't make things look better unless you have a 50" TV because the game wasn't meant for that resolution.

I don't know if that's how it's supposed to be, but that's what I've taken from my experiances and many other people who upscaled on the 360 would tell you the same thing.

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Well first off it's too bad that everyone over the past year has been eating at Sony like Vultures. I'm not blaming anyone here, but just reviewers, magazines, etc. First it was the PS3 concept controller, everyone kept on saying that it was the actual controller, turning a def ear to Sony who kept on saying that it was just a concept. And then it was GT HD. That the lead designer said since day 1 that the microtransaction thing was just an idea, they never said that it's how they were actually going to sell it, but once again, everyone's so quick to bring the downfall of Sony that they just ignore that part... man people have an imagenary bug up their ass for the last while and I don't understand why.

Then finally everyone's like, "The PS3 is like $700", where they don't even look at what's in the $550 bundle and the $650 bundle because of Microsoft's stupid packaging of the 360 everyone thinks that you have to get the premium PS3 and that the core one is junk like it was with the 360. Where in fact the core PS3 came with everything the premium 360 had and it was only $50 more then the P-360, and then the P-PS3 was still cheaper then the 360 if you wanted everything the P-PS3 had because;

*****Flash Card Reader***60 GB HDD**HD-DVD/B-Ray Player**Wi-Fi****Total
P-PS3****Included********Included*****Included *******Included***$650
P-X360****None**********None********$200**********$1 20*****$820

And you still lack stuff on the 360... man are people misinformed and stupid now a days.

(Sorry, just had to put that out there)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

That's the point of a premium bundle. YOU GET MORE!!! And if you don't want it then you buy the standard bundle. And with the lack of stuff that the core 360 came with the system itself was basically useless without an HDD or memory card. At least both PS3s allow you full functionality as far as the games are concerned.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I hope it comes out here too. I'm always up for free stuff, even if I don't like simulation games. Must say though, right now I want a PS3 for the Assasin's Creed & MotorStorm demos... too bad I can't find a darn system to acutally BUY.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

All demos are free. Though there's talk that the Halo 3 Beta could cost some points to download, but nothing is yet confirmed.

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The PS3 did just come out, and this is Sony's first time with such a huge online project, I personally find it amazing that Sony's been able to do as much as it has. It's done better then Nintendo by far and is not too far off from the 360 except for in a few convienent features. If Sony remains serious I believe they could pull something really amazing off, despite the price of the hardware.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Technically Tekken DR wasn't even a PD2 or PSP game. The PSP one was a stripped down version of the Arcade Tekken 5 2.0 DR, and it never made it to the PS2 as you know. So for die hard Tekken fans like myself, this will be the only version of the best 3D fighting game yet, now I REALLY need a PS3

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I have yet to hear anything that major about PS3 problems yet myself. All the issues are just small software issues that Sony is constantly fixing. Ex. Tekken 5 was fixed the first week after the PS3 came out.

Also the failure rate of the PS1/2 emulation rate is 2.5%, whoopdy fucking doo. Can't play FFVII, spend $5 for a PS1 until the next update or go play a game for the $600 system you just purchased.

Most of Wolf's games (Ex: DMC3, FFVII, Silent Hill & MGS3) arn't anything that will really stop you, unless you really don't want to play them that bad and we're once again back to the $5 PS1 solution.

As for the save file issue, better then the 360's solution which is NON EXISTANT!!! Also you don't have to buy the PS3 adaptor, if you have a GameShark or Action Replay for the PS2 you can copy all your saves from your MemoryCard to a ThumbDrive, and then from that to your HDD, 20 second solution. Or spend the $10 for the bloody adaptor, or if you have a buddy who also needs one, split the price and there you go. It's really not that big of a deal.

Finally as Katze said, when it asks you to connect a controller you just hit the PS button on the SIXAXIS and you're set. Which is simpler then the Wii's setup.

Insert Dics -> Use Wiimote to navigate & start game -> Put away Wiimote and switch to wired GC controller... this is the biggest pain in the ass ever. Why can't I navigate the menu with the GC controller, can someone answer THAT one for me?

Katze: Sony never got the the point where they were making money off the hardware until May '05 so I think it's going to be the competition that guides the PS3's price and not profits. But like everyone else, I'm just making guesses based off of trends.

FELIPE NO

I know I rather have it partially work because things like only 1st boss battle of FFVII has missing pointer doesn't really matter to me, and if I found out that that issue is what kept me from being able to play it on my PS3 day 1 I'd be pissed. On the other hand with the more serious issues like FFIX I wouldn't try playing the game, but I'd be happy knowing that they're working on it and that it's soon coming.

The 360 compatibility wouldn't be as big of a deal if it wasn't that about 91% of the games didn't work accompanied by the fact that Microsoft is no longer updating the BC ability from this point on. That doesn't make the failing games on the PS3 100% ok, but at least Sony is open about their issues and are devoted to getting the BC working 100% unlike Microsofts tactics of trying to control the market. (Ex. Madden '06 for the Xbox isn't 360 compatible because they want you to buy the $10 more 360 version... that crosses the line for me, trying to tell me what I can & can't do. Where Sony's like "you can do it, but it'll look like shit in comparison."

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You've got to get the MotorStorm demo too. I just played it today at EB and... *drewling*. I have a 360 hooked up to an HDTV and the only that's even come close that game would be Gears of War, however Gears didn't even have as far of a draw distance as that. Not only that but the gameplay was shear fun. Bit of a slowdown at the beginning of each race, but after that it's 60FPS all the way.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

WolfDemon: At least you know that Sony is going to fix these issues, just give them a chance. On the other hand I wish I still had my original X-box for only two of my 56 games work on the 360... how's that for ya. Worst part is that I know that MS is NEVER going to make any more BC updates. I guess Peter Moore knows all though when he said, "We're not going to update the BC list any more because no one plays X-box games still". Hmmmm... too bad your ivory tower has shitty informents because LOTS of people WOULD if the damn $500 system COULD run them... dumb ass.

Dragoon: It's not that big of a deal, just because the box has a rip doesn't mean anything because there's tons of foam between the system and the box. However if it doesn't work you just take it back and they have to give you one from their next shipment. Like I said, no big deal.

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Pretty much any movie made before the DVD format can't really be improved upon from the original. However almost all movies since then are shot with digital HD cameras that have much better resolution then that of a DVD and take gigabytes of strage to hold, these are the movies that will be able to use BR, that and animated films as pointed out earlier.

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That is correct.

Sorry if I was confusing you though. But I meant that for there to be a large difference from DVD to BR it has to have been done via digital recording, where as you pointed out, a DVD can be made from a film source with improved quality, however if you use that same film for a BR version, it'll look pratically identical to the DVD version.

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Hell, I wish the 360 had the launch titles that the PS3 had, cause other then RidgeRacer and Condemned everything else was a let down.

As for the rumble feature, after ten years I don't even notice it anymore. As some of you may or may not know, the 360's wireless controller rumble shuts off when it gets to 30% battery life remaining, however mine still dies half way through a match, simply I never notice the rumble when it's working or not. And to tell you the truth, I'm more excited about it's motion sensor ability then I ever was about the rumble. However I'm only one person withing the crowd of mixed feelings about the situation.

However the one thing I'm REALLY disapointed about is how hard it is to get a PS3, sure the 360 was hard to find too, but not THIS hard. I have $760 cash sitting right in front of me for when I find a PS3 and STILL nothing... argh.

Mercury: You could very well be right, I don't know. I don't really watch many movies and I watch even less TV (only Family Guy, 24, & HOUSE).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Balikruxh: You could download the FF XIII trailer from gametrailers.com and just make your own pics by freezing the video at the desired stance.

Inhert: You'd be correct. The company was Immersion who sued both Sony and Microsoft. However before going to court Microsoft bought Immersion, dropped the case against Microsoft and then increased the fine to an amount that would put Sony out of business if they were to pay the fine. And then before the case even got to court Microsoft sold the company to some other company and in the end forced Sony to cut the rumble feature. The only reason why Sony doesn't say that is because they don't want to admitt that Microsoft got to them.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

HELL YA!!! I FINALLY GOT ONE!!!

However it's taken 5minutes for the update to get to 25%, does it usually take this long? Also do the demos take a long time to download too?

FELIPE NO

I went to FutureShop at 7:30AM and when they opened at 9AM they had 3 60GB PS3s and I was the first one in line, hence I got one. It's as easy and random as that.

UPDATE:
Man this is killer. The system actually emulates surround sound for MP3s & CDs, something I wish my 360 could do. Also does anyone know how to select the dune buggies in the MotorStorm demo? I could do it on the EB games kiosk, but I can't remember how to do it on my demo.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Inhert: I know you guys were talking about this already on the last page, however I'd just like to clarify something. Is the HDCP protection also on PS3 games? Because I could have sworn that the protection was only on the BR-movies. I wanted to hook my PS3 up to my monitor also via DVI, but if you're sure that it won't work without HDCP support then I'll just have to believe you. (My monitor is a ViewSonic VA1912wb)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Not only because the system comes out in Europe till march but also there will be plenty more consoles sold/available in the NA market by that time too therefore more software will sell then then it would at this time. Finally I'm sure that a lot of developers actually needed that time in order to complete the games they're working on, and if it costs me two months of waiting to get stable framerates and less bugs, then I'm all for it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

They're constantly fixing it, there's already been three patches, all of which have fixed many issues. Me personally though I have a 720P display and there have been very few instances where I've had any real issues with any of my PS2 games.

By the way I have 125 PS2 games with a few also out on lend. However depending what type of games you play there may be some variation to experiances. (I play mostly RPG, Music & Fighting games)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Just so everyone knows the PS2 system information capability for the PS3 is now available on the PLAYSTATION Network for thoes who are interested. This gives thoes who have PS2 games that have HDD support access to the PS3's HDD.

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It also makes FFXI playable and ResidentEvil Outbreak 1 & 2 installable to decrease loading time by half for all 6 people who still play it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Hmmm... I've never experianced this. Are you guys running on 1080 or 720? I'm running on 720p and the only thing like this that I've ever expeianced is in Call of Duty 2 & 3 where there's a line in the center of the screen that you can see for when objects pass they magically become rendered, however this doesn't sound like the same thing that you guys are having. If I find anything out I'll be sure to post.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?