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[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 10:19 AM #26 of 1533
Same here man... same here. I know that the start of the trailer is the same as the E3 one, but it's the part after the credits that's different with this scene inserted.

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So far Kotaku is the only source with the new footage, however the quality is so/so and there's no audio. Which may not matter if the trailer is spoken in Japanese (as usual) because the subtitles are in German.

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GameTrailers has a cam video of the new trailer that's not shaky cam, and has easy to hear narritive. However you can still hear the surrounding people still.

For thoes wondering the trailer is also ENGLISH.

However I think I'm going to wait for a non-cam video before I watch the new footage. (I'm a quality hoar)

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23891.html

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 10:47 PM #27 of 1533
A lot of times in things like anime and what not, the JAP dubbing is usually just as bad if not worse then the english dubbing. However I suppose that poor saps like you guys wouldn't know that not understanding the context of things in Japanese. Trust me. 70% of things with bad ENG dub is usually as bad in JAP (or just as good depending on what you're talking about)... MGS being one of thoes things.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:56 PM #28 of 1533
Well what do you think's going to happen when Snake dies? lol

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Old Aug 25, 2007, 07:28 PM #29 of 1533
Yeah, it sounded like Sigint to me too.

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When I listened to the podcast not long ago with MGS1's translator he actually commented on that very line. He wanted to keep it, but didn't want it to be worded so out of place, however it seemed like the one thing that Kojima set his foot down on and wouldn't let the guy alter, hence it's helping of extra cheese.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 2, 2007, 12:47 AM #30 of 1533
Well it's good that the current translator has that freedom to play with lines and make them better. Since the misunderstandings during MGS1's translations Kojima has been pretty strict for the translations. However most you agree that the MGS1 script was the best of all 3 so that freedom appears to make a difference in the end.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:16 PM #31 of 1533
I know that I don't want to see the trailer, thing is with all the time I spend on the net I know people are going to be talking about it around every turn. So watch it or not I'm still going to find out. However like Pietak, I'm at least going to wait for it in HD whether it be PSN or GameTrailers before I watch it.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 02:37 PM #32 of 1533
Don't worry, I've looked in most the spoiler tags and the majority has been cryptic or bizzare... except for Hantei's they're real... I think. I mean I didn't read his because they looked legit so yeah. Nevermind...

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 09:43 PM #33 of 1533
With the DualShock 3 showing up perhaps rumble guy over at Kojima Productions finally has some work to do. Good for you rumble guy, good for you. Make us proud

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Old Sep 21, 2007, 11:32 PM #34 of 1533
The MGS Theme was on the 20th Anniversary album
Video Game Soundtrack - Metal Gear Solid 20th Anniversary Collection - Order Now!

However I do agree that the MGS theme does sound a good amount like that Russian composer's song. The notes are similar, but it's the movements that are WAY too similar.

I also watched the new TGS trailer. It wasn't that big a deal on spoilers. And yes it rocked of course.

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Old Sep 22, 2007, 09:10 AM #35 of 1533
Also it's nothing new that MGS elements are based off of other hit media items. For example, back in the MGS1 days Kojima had an interview with GamePro where he said that he really loved anime and that a lot of ideas have been inspired from them (hence the Ninja Grey Fox). I'm sure that the Pain was not inspired by Ninja Scroll... right? With the guy who commands hordes of bees. Also the "Man Cannon" in the new MGSO I'm sure was'n inspired by Halo 3 (unconfirmed, but not surprising if it was). Then of course Snake based off Pliskin and so on and so forth. That's what's always been great about MGS, is it's media refferences, Kojima has never said that he's always made everything himself.

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Old Sep 22, 2007, 10:57 AM #36 of 1533
It's how you do it though, not what you do. Kojima does things with class and good humour. He's not portraying things in some negative way, so lighten up. It's not like that's all his games are, not even close.

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Old Sep 23, 2007, 12:31 PM #37 of 1533
He wasn't confused about the story element, but the literal element. Why would they bother to put Old Snake on the health bar instead of just snake like usual? It seems redundant if it didn't have a point to it.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 23, 2007, 03:14 PM #38 of 1533
I am looking forward to MGO BIG TIME! I was addicted to MGS3: Online which was an online mini-game really. So to have a fully developed version is going to be intense.

@Megalith
I'm sure it would be awkward at best. But I don't think MGS is at least the creator of this concept, as to whether it's a real world weapon or not I have no clue.



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Old Sep 23, 2007, 03:48 PM #39 of 1533
I'm sure that they built the engine and assets to look how they wanted long before they worried about native resolution. We'll probably never know, but knowing Kojima through his interviews he usually shoots for visual excellence on all fronts, so I'm sure that he wouldn't sacrificed one thing for another. Then again even if they did, we would probably never hear about it.

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Old Oct 4, 2007, 05:12 PM #40 of 1533
I just went to my local specialty shop and ordered the MGS4 Snake and MGS2 Raiden. They seem to have a ship date of 02/08/08 which is about normal for imported items with Diamond.

GT has a new interview with Ryan Payton on MGS4 (of course). Sorry I didn't post this earlier. It just elaborates on the differences between the Jap and US version of the game and what have you, good video.

-> Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - TGS 07 In-Depth Interview HD

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Old Oct 18, 2007, 07:23 PM #41 of 1533
Screw E for All man. The only reason I would ever go would be for the MGS4 demo. Any other time I wouldn't care less.

If you want some retribution for not being able to go. Go take a look of the pics over at Kotaku. What a saaaaaaaaaaaaad turnout.

Events: E For All Missing The "All"

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Old Oct 21, 2007, 12:27 AM #42 of 1533
This isn't supposed to be a flame. After watching GT's interview with Payton (Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - E for All 07 Interview HD) and hearing what he had to say about Blu-Ray. How it allows them to use uncompressed audio and other things that increases the quality of the game and will fill the Blu-Ray disc. I managed to find this image which gave me a good chuckle. This isn't a flame so don't you guys get upset here.

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Also GT has some gameplay footage of the E4A english demo. (cutscenes and codec segments have been skipped for spoiler free viewing)

Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - E 4 All English Demo Gameplay Part 1 HD
Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - E 4 All English Demo Gameplay Part 2 HD
Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - E 4 All English Demo Gameplay Part 3 HD
Gametrailers.com - MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - E 4 All English Demo Gameplay Part 4 HD

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Old Oct 21, 2007, 12:35 PM #43 of 1533
Perhaps someone else already caught this, but apparently it's officially straight from Kojima's mouth at TGS that MGO that is bundeled with MGS4 will REQUIRE a FEE to play. WTF is that supposed to mean and why. But he also sais that the game will be guarenteed to be supported for a minimum of ten-years.

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Old Oct 21, 2007, 01:56 PM #44 of 1533
Well yes and no. The thing with Sony, unlike Microsoft they don't regulate the servers or anything and the developers have to run and maintain their own servers unless they pay Sony a fee to run it for them.

Therefore, since it's Kojima Productions own servers, they can charge whatever they want. The network is non-regulated.

But if I had a gun to my head and was told to guess at what I think Kojima meant. MGO will probably be on the included disc and you probably have to pay a one-time fee for server access. Where if it were on the PSN you'd have to pay and then wait for it to download to play. This way it's straight PAY -> PLAY.

However there's been no official expansion on this however.

I think I'm going to write Payton, maybe he'll elaborate on it during thursday's podcast.

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There, it's off. Hopefully with some luck the question will be answered on this weeks show. ^^

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Old Oct 22, 2007, 12:19 AM #45 of 1533
Well we'll see. Like I said, I sent a message to Ryan Payton through the Kojima Productions site. Perhaps if more people asked about this it would increase the chances of getting the question answered on air.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 22, 2007, 03:30 PM #46 of 1533
Well Payton mentioned during either EP61 or 62 that he and KP was using the E4 demo as kind of a "test" see see the publics reaction to certain things that they changed in the english demo compared to the Jap one. So I'm guessing that's whay they don't want to release the demo, or at least not yet. Simply because the demo as it is now does not represent the final product.

(Still wish I knew what things he was talking about though)

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Old Nov 1, 2007, 06:14 PM #47 of 1533
I was hoping if I ignored the news that it would go away and would then not be true. However I can't say I'm too surprised.

With all the Q4 '07 games filling up MGS's Q1 '08 window it was probably marketing that wanted them to move MGS4 to Q2 '08. That way it's a PS3 killer app and the only real killer app coming out in it's quarter making the PS3 a very appealing purchase.

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Old Feb 29, 2008, 10:21 AM #48 of 1533
Actually on the Kojima Report Ryan said that the US version won't have JAP VA and that the JAP version won't have English subs. So unless you actually know Japanese, you won't be playing the Jap version of the game.

Which is fine by me because I don't like playing/watching JAp content when they have characters who should have Russian, American, English, etc accents anyway, so I have no desire to play MGS in Jap either way. (though I'm sure few of you may disagree)

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 11:40 PM #49 of 1533
I don't. David Hayter to me IS Snake. Any other voice just wouldn't feel like MGS. Same can be said for Otacon, who also has the perfect VA. Besides they are american characters. Makes sense that they'd be speaking english and NOT Japanese to begin with. No?

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Old Mar 4, 2008, 06:55 AM #50 of 1533
It filled up 50Gigs because;

*the entire opening is pre-rendered and not in-game
*the entire game is in 1080P
*All the audio is uncompressed digital 7.1 PCM

I'm disapointed that with even 50Gig Blu-Rays that movies still don't have the great content -> $ ratio that a game does. So I call the two square if nothing else.

Also like I said, a lot of people (myself included) believe that the English VO is at least equal if not superior to the Jap VO becuase of the characters nationalities. You don't really ever see a Russian ever speaking Japanese or Americans who speak Japanese exclusively, therefore I find the Japanese VO to actually detract from the game's believable characters personally (if we were to have Jap VO that is, this is based off the Jap trailers ). So you're not really missing much. Just watch the cinematic on youtube or something if you want to see them that bad.

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