[Wii] Official Nintendo Wii thread

I find it funny that MS is teaming up (or at least trying) with Nintendo seeing how they're both at the opposite spectrums of the gaming audience. Sony & Nintendo would go together alot better because a lot of people who like the quirky stuff on the Wii tend to like RPGs and Music games as well. But hey, business is business and no one's going to go down if there's something that they can do about it.

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As for Call of Duty - Wii that's what it's sounding more and more like you're going to have to do. But doesn't it make sense though?

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Just going to have to use a TV table with some books or something to rest on while sniping perhaps.

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Yeah... Nintendo used it to show the possible diversity of the console. However when a rep at the tradeshow in Germany for Nintendo was asked about the game by GameTrailers he said that it should be some time next year, but no date has been given yet.

If you'd like to check it out for yourself the interview should still be on GT.com

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Most games need the nunchuck. And FPS, or platformer will require it.

As for controller prices (in CAD)

Wiimote & Nunchuck = $80.00
360 Wireless = $60.00
PS3 Wireless = $50.00

Also the PS3 uses an actual geyroscope which is a more expensive component then that in the Wiimote, which is also why the Wiimote needs the sensor bar. So why the hell does the less expensive to produce equipment cost as much as the more expensive? Not that it matters. Things are pretty much set in stone so there's not much that we can do about it now... not that we ever really could do anything about it in the first place.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Hopefully they can pull it off. So far Metroid has been the best with it's expert setting controls, too bad it's no longer a launch title. Even at that though, it still has some work that needs to be done.

I'm just glad that somebody FINALLY implimented Mouse & Keyboard capabilities in games and that I'll now be able to play PS3 shooters via K&M... thank the lord. At least until Nintendo or someone else can come up with a better way to play FPSs.

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Yeah, that Toys R' Us deal is pretty good.

Cheezeman: The playstation controller has been the best controller for three generations, so I don't know how you can say that it's flawed. Everyone knows that K&M is the best ways to play FPS games at the moment. I never dismissed the Wii controller, but to say that it's going to be better then K&M before it's even out is jumping the gun a bit.

Elixir: There's lots of great FPS games on the consoles that you can't even get on the PC. Also you say getting the PC versions of thoes games would be cheaper? Not when you have to buy a whole new PC just to run the damn things for $1,600, and then that will only last you about three years before you'd have to upgrade.

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The simple fact is that I don't want to buy a PS3 AND upgrade my computer If I can just Buy a PS3 and play ALL my games on that. Hell most people can't stop bitch'n about how much the PS3 already is so why would someone get the system and upgrade their computer?

The other advantage is that this way I can take my games with me when I go places, and I can play FPSs with my friends Online.

Finally here's some FPSs that will ONLY be onconsole that are coming out;
Resistance
The Darkness
Killzone
KillingDay
Coded Arms

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StarmanDX: I've been working at a videogame store for three years and I have yet to see anyone say that either the X-box or GameCube controller is better then the PS2 controller (overall). Sure the GC controller works for games that are designed for it Ex. Resident Evil 4, but when you get into cross platform games and fighting games the GC controller was just ugly for resonse time due to it's buttons being too far apart and the buttons are analog, not digital which in itself is less efficient.

Don't get me wrong the PS2 controller sucks for FPSs and Resident Evil 4. And the X-box controller was the WORST for fighting games and is a bit wonky in Ninja Gaiden.

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Is that not what I pretty much said. I sisn't say anything about comfort, I was only ever talking about functionality. What's the use of a comfortable controller if you can't use it? Not that I don't want them to continue innovating to fin the perfect mix of both.

Omnislash: Still, my last point still holds true. Why should I pay for a PS3 and a new PC if I can just get a PS3 and use K&M for thoes games that I so choose to play that way?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

This whole argument has become immature and has gone to a place where I don't want to follow. In my original post I never said that one thing was better then the other. All I said was that the Wiimote showed a lot of promise but it still needs to be refined. What the hell's wrong with that? It's a new technology, obviously it's not going to be perfect off the bat.

After which I said that I was glad that the PS3 was going to have K&M support. Whats the matter with that too? Also in my first post on the Wiimote (post #609) at the very end I even gave the Wiimote the benefeit of the dought that it could surpass K&M, what the hell else do you want from me, especially before I even get to use the damn thing. I'm a factual kind of guy I don't like to speculate on matters.

Perhaps this wasn't the place to mention it, but people don't need to get all defensive as to which is better. Why can only one means of interaction be good? Why can't there be multiple effecient ways of playing per each persons own liking? I'm sorry I ever brought it up. I won't say anything about it again, alright? (after this post)

Elixir:

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They should just stop making FPS games entirely

It's one thing to like certain types of games and not others, but do we really need to point fingures and bash things. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's no good. Ex. I hate Halo myself, but it doesn't make every FPS bad. Nor does it mean that Halo is actually bad, I just like games with more story and that doesn't fit my bill, but I know that there's still lots of people who do like it and I'm fine with that. People around GFF need to start being a little more subjective and less objective... this applies to myself too.

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That's a question better asked in the PlayStation forum my friend. I myself don't know much on the inerds of the PS3, however MetalSphere who roams the Sony forum probably would know.

As for the Wii. Seeing how it's using Opera that points to that Nintendo didn't want to make their own browser, which therefore means that the Wii would have to be running either Windows or Linux in order to be able to run Opera. Seeing how Windows isn't very likely that points more towards Linux. Also if Nintendo made their own OS coding for the Wii then it would just be more efficient to make the web browser themselves instead of training a third-party to use their code.

Of corse this is all speculation based on logical deduction. The one other way that Opera could be running on the Wii would be if Nintendo did use their own type of coding for the OS and then have a plug-in that could read and process Unix withing their own OS, which would then allow Opera to run on the Wii also.

I know I didn't quite answer the question at hand. However you can see with these different scenarios, which one/ones are the most likely to be true.

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Sprouticus: Thank you for correcting me ^^;

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Here's a gameplay walkthrough of how DBZ for the Wii will work.

LINK: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...13954&type=wmv

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That's the thing with art style, which is probably what Nintendo will be using a LOT of on the Wii because it looks good and it doesn't require as near as much power to do as it does to create realistic looking things like the other systems. Heck some of my favouriate games are Okami and Wind Waker so I'm all for more styleistic games.

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I'm not going to pre-order it. With what... 2 - 3 million at launch was it? That's almost more 360s that have been sold to date.

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Taco: Good strategy, one that I'll probably never be able to pull off.

The frantic buying of games and accessories at launch that is. Curse you mass marketing and your shinny, new products!!!

lol

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There's some 4 million units coming western shores so I don't thing that EB would have sold out already. I think that they're just playing it cautious after what happened with the 360 launch. Give it some time and don't be surprised if EB & GameStop call a second round of pre-books before the two systems launch.

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Hey, not to change the subject but does anyone have a list or know what games for the Wii are going to need the nunchuck to play? A friend of mine is trying to save some cash and would really like to know the answer to this question. Thanks everyone ^^

Jam it back in, in the dark.

It could but on the other hand Nintendo plans to have like 4Million on the market or some crazy number like that by the end of the year. So unless Smash Bros and Mario Galaxy show up out of the blue before then, I can't see it being that hard to find a Wii within the next two to three weeks.

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Zelda is the #1 murderer of battery life!!!

lol, I'm on my third set of batteries now and I'm only 40hours through the game (+ time spent in RayMan and Red Steel). But man does it eat up batteries, has anyone heard if Nintendo is coming out with a rechargable battery pack for it yet?

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I would because if the software update is related to a specific hardware problem within the system it's better to find out and get one that doesn't have the problem in it's place. Then again there have been many reports that Nintendo has fixed the problem in the second -> later shipments of the system, so if that's then case then you should have nothing to worry about.

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You can put the VC games onto SD cards? If that's true then I could get my friend to buy VC games and copy them to my Wii couldn't I? Even if you can't and you can only back them up then the people who got bricked Wiis can at least now back up their VC games instead of loosing them ^^

I don't know if this is because I have an updated Wii and my friend doesn't, but I tried to take my DBZ save file from my SD card to his Wii HD and his Wii couldn't even see the card nevermind copy the file. So does anyone know if this is only because his system isn't updated or is it something else?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yeah, around here I haven't heard anything about either system except about the Wii update thing which I have actually to hear of or meet anyone who had that happen to them. And then there's the disc drive things with both the Wii and the PS3. I remember last year though, everyone was ripping the 360 apart about it's hardware issues so bad, but this years there's nothing to be heard... lol. So yeah, I have no idea what's really going on with the two newcomers, but I figure there's nothing all that serious to worry about... yet.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It doesn't matter what system it is, people are going to buy any new system that comes out as long as there's enough supply for the demand they'll sell like hot cakes, it's not till later where things like graphics and coming games actually matter to people, otherwise things would be a lot different in the industry.

FELIPE NO

garth: I know what you're saying, and it is something that is said at the developer's conference every year. And actually Cliffy B also spoke at the conference saying this same thing.

(Basically what Cliffy B said at the Developer's Conference 2004, can be found on his blog)
Videogames are made up of three components; visual, sound, and interaction. If a game lacks in any of these three areas then you are setting your game up for failure. The belief that "Graphics don't matter" is used too often as an excuse then as a fact. It is true that if one of the three areas isn't perfect, that a mastery in another area can make the gamer overlook that, however if you totally make it so that the game looks like shit, then it doesn't matter how good the gameplay is. Or if Gears of War were to have midi music and retro gun effects, no one would want to play it either. And finally if the gameplay's bad then you've lost the gamer before the other two factors even have a chance to really display themselves.

Back to how this relates with the topic at hand. I think the Wii will be fine. It can give you reasonable graphics along with good sound and unique gameplay. It won't be a gamer's only console, but it could be for the casual gamer. Five years from now it's possible that the Wii may no longer be able to stand up against the 360 & PS3 after they hit $300, however all three Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft have all said that the Wii is kind of on it's own. No one is going to buy a 360 or PS3 over a Wii if that's what they want. Just like no one is going to buy a Wii over the other two if they want amazing graphics, online play along with HD & 5.1 audio. So while they may be in competition for the casual gamer, they are in two different fields when it comes to the fulltime gamer.

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Originally Posted by StarmanDX

But by the same token, by then the Wii will be dirt cheap - I could easily see it being $50-$100 by then, and $20-$30 for a Wiimote+Nunchuk. If it really catches on with the non-gamer crowd, and early evidence seems to indicate that it has a good chance, it could practically be a househould item when it hits that price range.

This could be true. Then again if you look at the last war you could have said that about the GCN when it came out. The thing is though any prediction is an educated guess at best. So I can't say that I'm right and you're wrong or even the other way around because NO ONE actually knows what's going to happen. The only thing that I know is that 70% of the market who arn't "hardcore" buy things based on looks because society today is a visual based society. People no longer read books, play music, or build things like they used too. Most people like things based on looks, that's where I got the trend of 360 & PS3 making sales leaps once they hit the semi-affordable $300 mark.
But once again these are just educated guesses based on past trends and societies appeals.

Originally Posted by StarmanDX

Sounds a lot like what's been said about DS vs. PSP. Of course, before both were out, Sony and analysts were saying "No contest, PSP will steamroll the DS." When the reality turned out to be the opposite, Sony reps responded with "Well, you can't really even count them as competitors."

The fact of the matter is, even if they have differing target audiences and offer different experiences, they're still competing video game consoles. And, you know, the Wii is capable of online play, and arguably "amazing graphics," if not HD graphics - there's a difference. However, the former requires a lot more effort on the part of developers.

If the trends of the DS & PSP remained linear from around April/May when analysists made those predictions then they would have probably been right. It was the late increase of original titles like Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center and Brain Age later that year that put the DS ahead of the PSP. So once again, you have to take predictions based on the market status of when they were made. So at the time they wern't totally wrong... at the time.

As for the HD and all that. It can do up to 480P which for someone with an HD set is barely worth while, and the Wii still only has surround sound emulation and not true 5.1. But like I said earlier. If someone is buying a Wii for HD and surround sound... then they're a fool.

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Yeah, some games would be nice to play on a stable rate, on the other hand games like Street Fighter 2 wouldn't be the sane without the slowdown when connecting with a hit.

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