Math-invention or discovery?

Originally Posted by Bradylama

Uh, the use of math "discovers" the solution. Math itself, however, is purely abstract and can therefore only be invented. You can apply math to relative measurements and units, but "math" only exists in the abstract.

Exactly.

Gechmir, you're saying that real-life objects can only be discovered. This is true. But the math itself is an abstract concept.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Meth

People didn't invent math; math invented people.

Math isn't invented. It's derived. The language that we use to describe math is "invented" I guess, but the properties of math are inherent to the universe.

Basic Algebra and Calculus may be things we invented to explain the universe, but I'd love to hear how things such as non-euclidian geometry, imaginary numbers, and most of modern theoretical mathematics fit into the known Universe.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Of COURSE they're "true" in the sense that they're mathematically valid. The fact that we created them before we had any "technological application" throws your idea that we derived it from the known universe out the window.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.