Global Warming

Gechmir - completely false. Between Ice Core Samples, Tree Rings, Packrat Middens, Spores in Bogs, and any other number of indicators, we have a very accurate and fairly complete portrayl of the Earth's Climate for the last forty or fifty thousand years. Also, long-term and short-term trends are very different. It's simple to see and analyze long-term predictions, but day-to-day (and even year-to-year) stuff is more volatile.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

People who don't understand science shouldn't discuss it. We can observe the makeup of the atmosphere and average global temperatures very accurately for thousands of years back. Since the end of the last Ice Age, temperatures have been very steady until a sharp increase began at nearly EXACTLY the same time as the Industrial Revolution. That's a hell of a coincidence.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Air Concentrations in Ice Cores, Spores in Bogs and stuff in Pack-Rat Midden indicating what kind of plants grew where in the past, Tree rings showing climate patterns....what more do you WANT, an alien weather probe to be uncovered that's been recording for the last million years?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

If you haven't seen such evidence you haven't looked. The scientific community's been testing the global warming hypothesis for more than 30 years now and the results are quite conclusive. The few vocal deniers are nearly exclusively Americans and with only rare exceptions all have strong ties to big business.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

If you really think direct observation is the only way to get accurate data then all of your science teachers ever should be fired.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Seemed fitting.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

First of all, the Scientific Community has been looking into this for a LONG time. The only deniers are extremist neocons, not scientists.

Second, let's look at the options: One, global warming is fake and we try and prevent it. So we wasted a few billion bucks. Oh well, that's just another week of the war effort. Two, global warming is real and we ignore it. The world ends.

I don't know about you, but I'll pick erring on the safe side.

FELIPE NO

Killeraoc: The changes are much more substantial than that. First, the cost of relocating all the people who live at coastal communities (which is a huge chunk of them) would be astronomical. Second, it would effect every industry across the board. Already, here in Michigan, the Cherry Industry is seriously hurt because Grand Traverse Bay no longer freezes over to create a growing environment. Skiing establishments across the nation have been having poorer seasons than average lately as well. As time passes on, the effect on agriculture and industry will be even more profound.

And "minor" changes - do you have any idea how much energy it takes to raise the Earth's atmosphere by a degree? It's no small number.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?