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Why are people offended by the term "Islamic fascists"?
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Old Aug 30, 2006, 04:59 PM Local time: Aug 30, 2006, 03:59 PM #1 of 131
Personally i don't believe i have clouded vision about who we are fighting. We are fighting terrorism on a global scale. Some might say that we are just fighting some of the middle eastern nations, but as far as i'm concerned they are our biggest threat right now... as far as terrorism goes. Of course there are other organizations in different parts of the world, i.e. Japan and Spain. But they currently aren't a problem for us. Terrorism is in my opinion a larger threat than an opposing country because terrorism is constant. It doesn't stop to sign treaties or cease fires(Hezbollah I believe is merely biding its time and building up its arms and munitions to strike again).
As far as the term islamic-fascist, we might as well call em like we see em. The extremists want a form of government which is very similar to a fascist regime, a fascist regime with a crazed and dillusional leader. Take for example Iran's leader who's name i can barely pronounce much less spell. He has denied the want for nuclear weapons in every interview and press conference that he has allowed, yet he test fired a long range missile from a submarine(quite recently). On top of that he has approved the use of heavy water reactors which produce large amounts of irradiated plutonium, plutonium is the preffered substance for a nuclear weapon. Does this not sound like Hitler before he started his war? People were rejoicing in Britain when the prime minister came back with his signed document that guaranteed peace. And we all know what Hitler did next don't we?
No, I need no help in defining the term Islamic-Fascist, nor do I have a problem with calling these people Islamic-fascists. Wesker, I do agree with you that we need to do something about these people before they do something very bad again. I think if another Republican president is elected and they don't lose many seats in congress then Iran will be next on the list. We can't let that man have nuclear weapons, mainly because he's a power hungry freak. On the other hand i disagree with you. I believe we need to remain in Iraq because even though some of the people might no like it, they need us to keep the peace. We need to finish the job.

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Old Aug 30, 2006, 11:52 PM Local time: Aug 30, 2006, 10:52 PM #2 of 131
First of all I can say what I want. Second I do know his name (Ahmedenijad). I was simply saying that to put a bit of humor into the post. But thanks for caring... and don't call me cloudiroth, I just thought it was the neatest built in avatar, i.e I don't want or need to go looking for one. But im not saying he's a nazi, i'm saying he's a fascist. I know they are similar but to me they are different.
P.S.- I consider myself extremely well informed if quite a bit too conservative for most. If you will notice Lurker, I didn't say I didn't know his name, I simply stated that i couldn't pronounce it properly or spell it. It's called a language barrier, IT MAKES ME NOT TALK ARAB GOOD. Great, now that I'm sure i've offended a few people, I will respectfully resign my post.

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Old Aug 31, 2006, 11:20 PM Local time: Aug 31, 2006, 10:20 PM #3 of 131
I was being an animated writer. Maybe you didn't pay attention when they were teaching you to write in English, either that or you majored in English and you were taught by one of those "all about structure" proffessors. Either way why can't you just shut up about it? The point is I know who the guy is so say something that has to do with the topic or stop typing. I hate critical people... anyway, I believe that the term Islamic-fascist is the proper given name for them... until someone thinks of something better. A Lurker I would appreciate it if you wouldn't nag me again. I don't want to waste my time talking about pronunciation. Mahmoud Ahmedenijad(or however you spell it) is a waste of breath for me to say... I label him Hitler jr., from now on that is how i will refer to him... kk?
P.S.- I noticed the link smartass, but too late. Why? I already knew, have fun rotting in ur basement, I am going to a party.

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Old Aug 31, 2006, 11:37 PM Local time: Aug 31, 2006, 10:37 PM #4 of 131
That's something i didn't know Styphon. What is it? I'm sorry I was so rude about it, I just don't like it when people talk about stupid shit like Lurker did when I'm trying to have a conversation. I'm not being sarcastic, I would like to know. Oh, and that was supposed to be humorous too. I see you didn't find the humor in it... sorry if ur offended or anything.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 10:51 AM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 09:51 AM #5 of 131
I hadn't gone to the party yet. I was still getting ready. Where did I admit incompetence? I didn't. I just want you to stop nagging. If ur saying I admit incompetence because it's hard to pronounce then you obviously STILL can't see the humor in my comments. Soluzar, yes, I admit that I am very right wing when it comes to most issues, though I don't back the president as much as I used to. He has become... a wussie. Lurker, Iranians are Persian eh? Actually I knew that, I just couldn't remember. It kind of jumped up from the back of my mind now that i've read it.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 1, 2006, 12:18 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 11:18 AM #6 of 131
Apparently i'm not. Either that or sarcasm doesn't exist where ur from. I probably read more books in a month than you have in ur life, so don't call me illiterate. I don't care how funny you think I am, as long as I derive some pleasure out of my words that is all that matters. I think it's nagging when people say things like,"What relevance does pronunciation have in a web forum?". Honestly, what do you do with ur life? Sit on gamingforce all day long? Who the hell are you to bitch at me about miniscule things such as that? I was just checking the post before i got in the shower last night, i don't have to tell you about my personal life, go do whatever it is that you people do when ur angry and sexually frustrated. Personally, I think you need to get laid, it'll take ur mind off the little things.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 01:55 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 12:55 PM #7 of 131
Whatever, you know UR both the same. UR bitching at me now because I typed UR? But UR right. I won't post on this thread anymore. It's useless to try and talk to you people after someone starts to complain. I guess since UR both old users you kind of stick up for each other eh? Well, it's great that you have a superiority complex because of the forum and all, but try not to be such a dick. Oh and Devo, perhaps you should read my earlier post, I did give a reason for comparing him to hitler.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 02:13 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 01:13 PM #8 of 131
no he lied like hitler. nt on the same scale but he lied. he said he didn't want weapons capability.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 02:22 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 01:22 PM #9 of 131
But it is. He did it in the same way you see. I never said that Americans have never acted like him either. Hitler didn't lie about weapons but i think in the end everything will be similar.

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Old Sep 1, 2006, 07:23 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2006, 06:23 PM #10 of 131
Thank you. Finally someone can not nit-pick about every little thing. Devo, you are saying the same thing over and over again come up with something new. Onsce, I understand what you are saying. Although, The Iranian president is lying about things that are a bit more important than most American lies. Devo, I undersand that every nation has a right to try and better itself, but Iran is led by a fanatic, and fanatics in the end are never good, especially when they have WMDs.

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Old Sep 2, 2006, 03:35 AM Local time: Sep 2, 2006, 02:35 AM #11 of 131
Originally Posted by a lurker
The holocaust didn't happen.
Who said that? The president of Iran was it not? So, if we had caught Hitler and tried him in a court do you think he would fess up? I don't think so.

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Old Sep 2, 2006, 01:09 PM Local time: Sep 2, 2006, 12:09 PM #12 of 131
Yeah that is a pretty good name for him cal. Watch out for devo and lurker tho. They get angry about the small things. They might get angry if you don't put the jad in there.

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Old Sep 3, 2006, 02:30 AM Local time: Sep 3, 2006, 01:30 AM #13 of 131
Cal, I think the Holocaust can be used for political ends simply because of the magnitude and horror of it. Would you rather it be written off? I think we all have interpretations of what he meant. The point is, he should have known what the ramifications for saying something like that would be.

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Old Sep 3, 2006, 01:32 PM Local time: Sep 3, 2006, 12:32 PM #14 of 131
I agree with you Gren, that we must fight what leads to that methodology, but at the same time if we don't fight the methodology and just attack the source, then you've got a lot of crazy people running around thinking nothing is going to happen to them if they blow shit up. Wow that was a run-on. Not going to fix it though.
I, unlike you, am a staunch conservative, my values are obviously at least slightly different from everyone in this thread. I suppose that makes me a target? Well, I for one am glad your attack was not a direct one. I know what fanatic means. I characterize the president of Iran as a fanatic. He has said he wants the Jews to leave or die has he not? Well, the Jews sure haven't done anything to Iran recently. In reality, they never do anything to anyone, they just fight back when they are attacked. They just happen to be very, very good at it. Personally I hope Israel crushes Hezbollah and then goes after Syria. Oh yeah, much of Hezbollah is funded and armed by Iran, I just don't see how you people can't see that this guy is a nut.

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Old Sep 4, 2006, 04:03 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2006, 03:03 PM #15 of 131
Night Phoenix and Styphon make great points. I couldn't tell you when was the last time Israel attacked a country without getting attacked first. It sure hasn't been recently. But look at what is happening. Saying that ahmedinejad does not have an intent to destroy Israel would be crazy, whether that's right or wrong. If you try to think the way he does it doesn't work because he IS a crazy bastard, I don't care how smart he is or how much he loves his people. He's not a threat to Iran he's a threat to everyone else. Ahmedinejad or the president of Korea would be the first to discharge nukes if they had them so we can't let them have them.

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Old Sep 4, 2006, 08:01 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2006, 07:01 PM #16 of 131
Yeah i've got to disagree with you on that night phoenix. I don't think Europe actually WANTS Israel to be destroyed. That's kind of crossing the line don't you think? Although, I do agree that they haven't aided Israel very much.

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Old Sep 5, 2006, 01:41 AM Local time: Sep 5, 2006, 12:41 AM #17 of 131
Yes, but I still don't think all of Europe necesarily wants Israel out of the picture.

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Old Sep 5, 2006, 11:59 PM Local time: Sep 5, 2006, 10:59 PM #18 of 131
Originally Posted by Adamgian

What, so every Western country is now obliged to give Israel two billion dollars a year just so people will say that they don't want it wiped off the map? Europe is the reason Israel exists in the first place, it supplies it with weapons, and some of the powers that be are committed to its defense. If that isn't aid, then I sure as hell don't know what you possibly would classify as aid.
You misunderstand, I never said Europe had to do anything, and personally I don't give a damn. All I said is that I don't think they do very much. Arms dealing is not necesarily a big help because Hezbollah can get weapons just as easily(i.e. IRAN). I don't really know what else would help except for additional personnel and long-range support from other countries... so... what where you getting at? Hmmm?
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Iran as well is simply full of hot air, and has no means to fight Israel, especially in the short term.
How the hell do you know? Did you have lunch with Ahmedinejad or something and talk to him about his plans? Iran could be the BIGGEST threat to Iran because you have nothing to base that statement on... or do you have tarot cards or something?

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Old Sep 6, 2006, 01:53 PM Local time: Sep 6, 2006, 12:53 PM #19 of 131
Originally Posted by Adamgian
Do you want to show me where Iran keeps its nuclear missiles?
Do you want to show me where we keep ours? All of them? You don't know what they are capable of unless you have been there and seen it do you? You think America has shown all that it can do in Iraq? NO, we haven't, you have no idea what Iran is capable of. Now Iran is a threat because Iraq is no longer there to keep it in check(The only downfall of the war.).
Oh, and Iran test-fired a long-range missile off of a submarine. That missile had nuclear capabilities. It was all over the news. I'm glad you have knowledge of treaties and embargos and cease-fires and defactos and all that crap. But, when it comes right down to it that's all just signatures. Treaties are made to be broken buddy, you watch.

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