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Old Oct 5, 2006, 07:55 PM Local time: Oct 6, 2006, 11:55 AM #1 of 44
Mr Maul, I don't know what you're talking about... I don't have a personal blog, anymore that is, and any personal blogs nor production blogs would have nothing in terms of offensive nature. If you would like to enlighten me with that, plz PM me with the link.

Perhaps I should restrain my personal opinion to some extent but truth is the truth. In the end, what Thomas had been feeling towards Play and how they are run is reflected by actions and the truth really comes out, its only a matter of time.

Anyhow, Thomas is really koo ^^ I never disliked him from the beginning, very interested in what he has to offer to the VGM community...

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Oct 9, 2006, 12:39 AM Local time: Oct 9, 2006, 04:39 PM #2 of 44
Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
He's become very personal against Jason and Arnie and combined criticism of PLAY! with self-promotion of his own orchestra, Eminence. I don't care whether most members post respectfully or with professionalism; it's not my place to say that. But when the founder and leader of the so-called best alternative to PLAY! makes these comments repeatedly and inanely, I can't help but pity Eminence's members and feel that Western symphonic VGM concerts, Europe's aside, are temporarily doomed.
Sorry about that Mr Maul, but I don't mean we are any kind of alternative. We aren't. I'm just using examples to talk, and there aren't much examples in the world besides us. You see, we don't really mind if we lose money to hold orchestral concerts. We love what we do and we recoup the costs by working hard to do smaller concerts actual recording of soundtracks etc. Also, I don't want people to come to our concerts because I say or some other eminence staff say we're good. Hence we put things up on Youtube for people to check out.

I'm sorry if I come up as a shady producer to you but by no means, I am a producer and if I am, I am the most crappiest producer of them all lol. I just want to play my instrument and perform the music I love.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Oct 9, 2006, 08:05 AM Local time: Oct 10, 2006, 12:05 AM #3 of 44
Sorry about so called abusing ppl but lets get some things striaght.

1) I have proper correspondence with Heads of SE Copyright division that they do not authorise no matter what circumstance of the use of SE images or videos other than Square Enix only concert, or a directly involved one.

2) Composer's frustration is a well known fact in the Japanese VGM industry. And who mentioned my good friend Mitsuda and Sakimoto's name anyway? I for one never mentioned anything like that on any public forums.

3) No I don't care about what you think of me Mr Maul. There are people who likes me a lot and people who hates me a lot. Making friends are a better investment than making enemies however I am very happy with the way I am and your comments do not hurt me in any way whatsoever. I'm not the type to be afraid to voice out my own opinion for the "looks" and "relationship" bullshitting. And by the way stop pitying us... we pity you for the lack of knowledge in whats really happening out there and making these remarks -_-;

4) I don't remember Harry arranging ANY music for Eminence Symphony Orchestra. What are you talking about? Please get your facts right. We pay Nicole Brady who worked for the Sydney Olympics and Tan Dun to get our orchestral transciptions. Would you believe that the works she's done include Shadow of the Collosus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-g1ncoKihw) and Ace Combat 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxNKE9UeRCE). Let other forum readers be the judge in whether she can transcribe and arrange or not.

I apologise in making you upset Mr Maul. I hope I can raise my professionalism a little more but I can't help thinking about my online professionalism when you told me thus in a PM to me a week or two ago:

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Harry mentioned the bad treatment of the composers from PLAY! It sounds terrible. What was Thomas Boecker's involvement in this situation? A five hour autography session? Sweden's lasted about an hour but was really rushed, horrible, and impersonal.

Have you attended a PLAY! concert yet? I did at Stockholm and have to say that I was thoroughly disappointed in most respects. The performance was lousy -- the wind soloists, guitarist, and pianist did a terrible job while it was clear from attending the 'final rehearsal' that they were utterly underrehearsed and went into no musical depth. Add that to most arrangements being rehashes of old material, really terrible transitions in most of the suites, the unpleasant reception I received from Arnie Roth, and Jason M Paul's general smarminess and insincerity...

If you wish to promote Eminence or insult PLAY!, feel free to make threads about either in my forum if you have time. It'd give me a chance to vent my negative experiences, though I decided against creating an actual review, as I don't want to have my site blacklisted or boycotted by PLAY! fanboys.

Sorry if I seem bitter. Like you, I'm a musician and a big game music fan, so it disappoints me to see such crud productions.

Take care and nice meeting you. Sorry about my initial hostility!
Boy you change... perhaps you weren't like so when you were lured over to the dark side...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Oct 9, 2006, 09:03 AM Local time: Oct 10, 2006, 01:03 AM #4 of 44
What picture? We haven't publicised any picture of what you speak. You speak of many things without hard evidence. And a lot of assumptions.

LOL talking behind backs?

I think that's what you do Mr Maul oh I mean, Meiusta.

I've said everything in the public forums so nothing for you to worry.

You want to flame Eminence? Then make a new post. This thread is not about Eminence but rather PLAY! Eminence was just brought up as an example.

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Old Oct 9, 2006, 09:54 AM Local time: Oct 10, 2006, 01:54 AM #5 of 44
A child's argument it is...

I shall not post here anymore but that doesn't mean I agree with your statements above. Happy posting about PLAY! ^^

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 15, 2006, 01:08 PM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 05:08 AM #6 of 44
Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
I still find it regrettable all this surfaced in a public forum that has a lot of big personalities and plenty of piracy (no offence to Gamingforce). I truly believe there could have been a better way for you to clear up all the misinformation or for the truth about Jason to get out. All this fighting between PLAY!, Eminence, and VGL surely compromises a lot of people (fans, composers, and performers alike) and certainly doesn't do the image of VGM much good. However, I agree that the actions of Jason have often been unacceptable and am glad to have been made aware of them. It's just a shame that nobody is going to come out of this affair too well.
Just want to say there is no "fight" between Eminence and PLAY!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 15, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 12:55 PM #7 of 44
There is no concert DVDs out by Eminence at the current time

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