What do you think of the value of art?

Define "art," define "useful," and the answer will be obvious from those definitions. That's it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Audiophile

you can't use it to do anything

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It's a much more gripping way of communicating one's personality

I'm afraid you've lost me.

Also, you know Warhol wasn't a surrealist, right?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'll just spell it out for you.

That "original meaning," whatever you think it is, is already dead. Art died with Duchamp and Fountain. Without standards, without God to define aesthetics, there is nothing but commodification. There is nothing discoverable in a work that can be pointed to and said, "Here! Here is what makes for beauty and meaning!"

How fitting that there's a Warhol avatar in this thread. Silkscreens, consumer products, mass reproduction, the "Factory"--the whole point of Warhol's work (his gimmick, if you will) was to flip Duchamp's conclusion on its head and turn commodities into art. It might have been very clever and very successful, but there's really nothing to say about the meaning, secret, or study of aesthetics after that.

You are yearning for something that is long since buried. And believe me, the fact that you're talking about music and not paintings doesn't make a dime of difference.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.