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Originally Posted by Mononoke

1. you know the text changed, like on spellbook, instead of "you have no discard phase" it says "you have no maximum handsize"

2. its about cycling: can I cycle on my library (so that I just redraw the cycled card) and still use side-effects of cycling?

1. Library of Leng has been errataed to say "You have no maximum hand size."

2. Effectively, yes, you can end up cycling the same card repetitively. For "side-effects," I'm assuming you mean cards like Astral Slide and Lightning Rift, which, indeed, is a combo with those cards.

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Originally Posted by IdentikitofEyes

Most rules now force you to suffle the libary after cycling a card just so someone doesnt have a repeating stratagy like that one.

Nowhere in the Comprehensive Rules does it say that you have to shuffle your library after cycling a card with the exception of landcycling. I'm assuming Mononoke's referring to the more traditional cycling since Mononoke wanted to re-draw the card, anyway.

Originally Posted by IdentikitofEyes

second reason is if either one of your cards says you have to discard it, then you will eventually have to lose that card.

Library of Leng allows the controller to replace the effect anytime he or she wants. It doesn't "eventually" wear off.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Mononoke

"04.10.2004 You can't use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren't effects."

Ah yes, my mistake. I guess those cards don't combo quite as well as I thought. IdentitkitofEyes was right in a sense.

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Originally Posted by IdentikitOfEyes

Like I said I only whent by the latest edition rules and games I have judged so i could still be wrong in some parts.

It's quite alright. The rules have changed a plethora of times with the biggest rules change being in Sixth Edition, so I'm not really going to get on your case about it. Some older players had a difficult time adapting to the new rules because of this (i.e. Untapping a creature doesn't remove it from combat any more, interrupts have been errataed to say instants). I even screwed up the previous ruling pretty horribly, and I'm fairly new to the game (I started around Invasion). :/

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Actually, there is a term called "landcycling" that appeared in Scourge (and one purple card in Time Spiral). It's read as "2, Discard this card: Search your library for a [specified land type] card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards." The specified land type would appear in the name of the landcycling ability (i.e. swampcycling, islandcycling).

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

It seems that Planar Chaos, the new set, has been pushing the envelope for cards in different portions of the color pie. There's been a recent card previewed on www.magicthegathering.com that might show how the new "planeshifted" cards are going to work. I'm keeping the card in spoilers so people who want to go to the prerelease without any prior knowledge of any new cards may continue to do so. There are some people who go to prereleases for shock factor alone.

The New Card:

The purple-ish color from the timeshifted cards is appearing on the text of the card instead of the expansion symbol. This might be how Wizards of the Coast will mark the new "planeshifted" cards. Theoretically, these planeshifted cards would be reprints of older cards but in different colors.

So what does everybody think about having two different Wrath of Gods in Standard? What other cards might be considerations for this new planeshifted idea?

I was speaking idiomatically.