[Wii] Official Nintendo Wii thread

This thing better come with 2 sets of full controller gear (remote, nunchuck, and classic) and 5 free Virtual Console downloads or this price is awful. Fuck Wii Sports. If that's the reason for this price and we don't get 2 sets of controllers then I'll be pissed. It's 4 mini games and is worth no more than perhaps a 5 dollar download via the virtual console. The date alone makes me shake my head. I figured they'd be smart and release this before the PS3. The 360 Core Pack is only 50 bucks more. Yeah I know only stupid people buy the Core Pack but there are a lot of fucking stupid people and that 50 bucks is a visible difference.

I'll be buying Wii no matter what but this news dissappoints me. I'm hoping this is really premature and Nintendo's official news will be better.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Typed this up for a thread on PGC but I figure this should work here and be agreeable with sane opinion.


Look, basically with the Wii you're getting a Gamecube on crack with a lot of extra power made just for figuring out how to react to the wacky controller. The system shouldn't cost that much since it's recycling a lot of technology. It's got a sweet interface and a lot of potential for future firmware updates and downloads etc. but that doesn't make up for the price for what it’s bundled with. I fully expected Nintendo to release this thing with at the very least a demo built into the system or Wii Sports and well we got Wii Sports. However, I won't be happy if those 50 dollars over the $200 sweet spot are for packing in Wii Sports. That's ridiculous. You shouldn't have to pay more than 10 dollars for that via a Virtual Console download if at all. 5 overblown mini games do not equal 50 dollars. Perhaps additionally with a demo disc with future titles such as Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Twilight Princess, Wario Ware, Rayman Raving Rabbids, etc., an extra Wii controller and nunchuck attachment, a classic controller, and 5 Virtual Console downloads it would be well worth going 50 dollars over the sweet spot. It'd be a great sign of good will to the consumer. That way you could preview all future and current titles and be one step towards a full multiplayer set up. Here's hoping that they offer demos to download.

Oh the Virtual Console. It's pure profit even if they sell all the games for just one dollar. 5 dollars for an NES game is extortion. With the price they have set up I don't think they'll be getting as many sales as they think they will. They'd be raking in a lot more cash for 1 dollar for NES games, 3 dollars for SNES games, and 5 dollars for N64 games. Given the illusion for cheap prices people are more likely to go spend crazy and Nintendo will get more money as a result; money which again is pure profit. Nintendo is just being greedy with current prices and I think it'll likely bring down sales but no matter since it's all profit to them. I as a consumer am just disappointed because I won't be buying as many games on the Virtual Console as I'd like.

I'm actually fine with the launch line up because as it was there were too many good games at launch. Many that would've have overwhelmed other games. I'm sure Ubisoft is very appreciative of the Metroid Prime 3 delay. I imagine Red Steel will sell many more copies now. Oh and I'm very happy about region-free. I sincerely hope no third party is retarded enough to actually region their games since it is an option. Likewise I hope they also follow Nintendo's lead and price their games at no more than 50 dollars.

If Nintendo plans to release 4 million Wiis across the US this year how would it hurt to start earlier than PS3's release date? They'll obviously have stores stocked no matter what so the "oh PS3 buyers will turn to Wii after not finding PS3 in stock" argument is rendered null since the stock will be available if they're stock piling this stuff. They have to be if they have 4 million of them. Oh and if they can produce that many white Wiis it can't be that hard to have black Wiis too. According to most polls the black version is what most people want. Unfortunately just like Gamecube they've decided to make their flagship system the color that most people didn't want. At least this time it isn't purple but last time we at least had the option of choosing black. If you can somehow transfer or redownload Virtual Console games you've already purchased to a new system I might buy a black Wii when it comes out and sell my white Wii. Let's just say the white Wii had an "accident".

Separately sold controller parts are a crime to both consumers and developers if it's the only option. I'm fine if the classic controller is sold separately but the pointer and nunchuck parts should be sold together for no more than 50 dollars. If you need a part replaced then I can see them charging those separate prices. This would be good for an online store I bet. Speaking of online they better not making component cables an online store only again. I want to use component cables on day one so I better be able to get them retail.


No one would be complaining if the following case was true:

1x Wii Console
1x Sensor bar
1x Wii stand
1x AC adaptor
1x AV cable (composite)
2x Wii Controllers (with two AAA batteries)
2x Nunchuck attachments
1x Classic Controller attachment
1x Wii Sports
1x Wii Demo Disc
5x Virtual Console downloads

Cost: $250

Virtual Console Prices:

$1 - NES games
$3 - SNES games
$5 - N64 games

Controller packages:

$50 - Wii Controller and Nunchuck attachment bundle
$40 - Wii Controller separately
$20 - Nunchuck attachment separately
$20 - Classic Controller (comes with 1 free Virtual Console download)


Nintendo also needs to have a rewards program. My recommendation is to have 1 or 2 free Virtual Console downloads with every Wii game purchase (that means all Wii game purchases including 3rd party. Nintendo still needs to figure out that they need to reward consumers for supporting them. If they can do that then they'll have this generation won right at the start.


I'll be getting a Wii no matter what. Just don't expect me to not say my piece on how Nintendo could be doing this better. Everyone would be rejoicing if this was the reality.

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See, when Nintendo let's loose a comment like "$250 or less" that makes us believe it'll be between $200 and $250 based on certain things. My guess back then was they were still figuring out what they wanted to bundle. It was a given that the system, cabling, power, and a wii controller and nunchuck attachment were going to be in there. However, I believe they were wondering what else they could put in there and how much profit they could get. The current deal is in my opinion worth $200. You're getting the same thing you got at their last console launch minus a packed in bunch of mini games to help demonstrate the controller. If they had given you the choice of a free Wii game then I could see the deal being worth $250.

I don't believe the system costs that much to produce. It's the controller that is the most expensive. So they're basically selling you Wii Sports for 50 or so bucks which costs them cents to produce. Look at the Japanese launch. Look at it! Their bundle is the same as ours minus a packed in Wii Sports and it costs about $210. NOA is running a complete profit scheme I swear. I'll buy into it because I have no choice but I don't like it. You could be buying a game that you actually want with that $50.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Oh and a reminder to those who think my deal is excessive, do recall that Nintendo bundled both the NES and SNES with TWO CONTROLLERS back in the day. And like Infernal said most of Wii Sports is only fun with two or more people so to demonstrate it properally they should include two sets of controllers. This will also give developers assurance that players will always have two sets of controllers. Including the classic controller is also good for every player that wishes to play Smash Bros Brawl. However putting the classic controller aside let's take a look at having two controller sets would allow. You've seen their drum game before, no? Can't be done unless you go out and buy a second controller. I think it's bullshit that you can't play a game SINGLE PLAYER without having to buy another controller. That's like if back in the day they had forced players to buy another N64 controller for Goldeneye so they could strafe instead of putting c buttons on the controller. Now hey if Nintendo decides they want to bundle an extra controller with games like that drum game then fine but what about the 3rd parties. What if they wanted to make a boxing game using two wii controllers. They can't count on everyone having two wiimotes. By having two sets of controllers they would eliminate this problem.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

BM, Nintendo would be turning in profit no matter what. Hell, they could ditch a second nunchuck attachment but if they had at least a second Wii controller then in the big picture they would be helping everyone including themselves out. Is that so unreasonable?

It's a no brainer that we're getting the best deal out of the three consoles. However, I'm looking at this from the average consumer's and the developers' perspective. Sure, it may not be so hard to buy a second controller YOU THINK. However, I remember long shortages of official 1st party gamecube controllers at launch. How do we know this won't happen again.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I dunno, BM. We're talking consoles here and their accessories to make games work. Not handhelds. The last time Nintendo tried screwing us over with outragous controller schenanigans they got bit in the ass. Hard.

Remember any of the connectivity titles? Pay for the game! Pay for extra GBA/GBA SPs because you're friends for some reason don't own any. Pay for extra connectivity cables! Now you're having fun while your wallet is doing limbo. Yeah, those games bombed pretty fucking hard.

I don't see how this is all that much different. Accessories do not equal new systems like a DSlite so I can't say I totally agree with your example.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Grubdog

Why not? An overblown mini-game is a game. Using your logic sold seperately they should cost $2 each. That's 15 Wii Sports games equalling the price of one GBA game. You can't seriously believe they are worth that much.

How much is any of the original games made for XBL Arcade? I've heard great things about Geometry Wars. It costs only 5 dollars. You going to tell me that Wii Sports is worth more than that? Essentially look at what these small games are going for and how much trouble it would be to download them. Not much at all. I'm angry that they're selling 5 mini-games for 50 bucks.

Originally Posted by Grubdog

Whether you like Wii Sports or not, it is a game. Games are sold for $50. You can't call it whatever you want just to suit your whiny arguments, it's juvenile. This is all it comes down to, peoples opinion of Wii Sports, i'm going to greatly enjoy having this game forced on jaded people who have completely forgotten what gaming is all about.

Oh I'm sure I'll enjoy Wii Sports. You know what else I'll enjoy? Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz which will most likely have all of Wii Sports plus a bazillion more games in addition to a full fledged game. Which one of these is worth 50 bucks?

Originally Posted by Grubdog

Don't like the price? Don't buy it and shut up. Still gonna buy it anyway? Then obviously it DOES hold that much value to you so they priced it perfectly.

Fuck you, I've had money set aside for the Wii since 2005 when it was revealed. Despite that I still can care about the value I spend my money on. It's my fucking money and guess what? I'll voice my fucking opinion on what I think and you can do nothing about it. I care about value. If getting what I listed for 300 dollars was an option I'd totally root for that because it would be completely worth it. If you think Wii Sports which is 5 mini games is worth the same price as a complete game that in addition has 20 times as many mini games and most likely includes those games featured in Wii Sports then fine, you can go and be delusional in your world of worth but I'll be completely cynical in reality because I can.

FELIPE NO

Ahahaha! The guys over at the official Nintendo forums are quite amusing. =)

Wii: A Modest Proposal - Wii - Nintendo NSider Forums

I can't believe I used that much effort but when you start mixing in quality posting in there it just equals comedy gold. Too hard to resist. ='D

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Identity Crisis

I don't know how you can tolerate even responding to this guy, AcerBandit. You certainly have a lot of patience.

Heh, he even posts about having a "real disscussion."

Heh, I tolerate it b/c I expected it and I think it's funny. I wonder how they'll respond to page 5. ='D

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Oh hells yeah! Looks like Telltale Games will hopefully be putting Sam & Max on Virtual Console!

Thanks to readers at their website, they managed to get Nintendo's attention and now are in talks with Nintendo to spread the wonder of Sam & Max even further. =)

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/15/sa...nts-your-help/

Double Post:
Well details don't specify Virtual Console but since the games are in episodes it only seems logical. I don't know exactly how big the games are though so who knows how that would work. Here are more details:

http://www.telltalegames.com/blogs/t...A31F.txt&smm=y

There's nowhere I can't reach.

BM, I'm not talking about Hit the Road from LucasArts. I'd love it if LucasArts sold their old adventure games for the Virtual Console. It'd be a very smart idea on their part. However, that's not what this news is about. Perhaps we should all email LucasArts about that though. =)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm really enjoying how they took a simple approach with coverart logos. It's just a thin bar and a corner for all that. Anything else is blank space for coverart and esrb and company logos. So much better than PS3 and its blu-ray and PS3 giant logos taking up. This cover design is a vast improvement from their E3 offerings. =)

Most amazing jew boots

http://www.ebgames.com/gs/trade-ins/...okie%5Ftest=1&
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/trade-ins...okie%5Ftest=1&

Examples of their trade-in prices. I dunno. Sounds like a rip-off.

Double Post:
Oh looks like the thread for that is gone now. Perhaps it was just a rumor. =o

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Pez

A weather channel is awesome. Imagine: raining today, raining in Animal Crossing. Yeah.

That's a great idea. However I would hope that would just be a fun option because if you don't live in a temperate zone then you'll end getting the same damn weather in your village all year round. It would be amusing to set the weather for wherever you want though.

"Let's move the village to Hawaii! =D"
"Yeah!"
"Now Alaska!"
"Yeah!"
Now the moon!"
"What?"

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Slayer X, I'm not quite sure if you're confused or something. The Wii does not come with component. It comes with composite. However, component cables for the Wii will be available at at least Nintendo's website. Hopefully this time they'll also have them at retail stores. Whenever they're demoing the Wii they have it connected to TVs using component cables. So don't worry about that so much as worrying about getting them because the Wii does use component.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by DarthSavior

Sorry guys. I helped Gamestop make their Wii presale program a step closer to being successful. ;_; Traded 3 games and 6 DVDs. Also reserved Twilight Princess and Trauma Center.

Where the hell do you live? I could have sworn this thing only took place in Hawaii and Guam.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Malmer

In other news I'll be buying the white one at launch, and maybe sell it later in favor of the black one.

Yeah that's what I suggested to do since I believe Perrin Kaplin said that you could move your account over to a new Wii if you wanted for virtual console games.

Originally Posted by Malmer

I've just bought a 2gb SD card and found the TV I want anyway so...

I'm your bitch

Oh how much for the 2gb SD card and what TV and how much? =o

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I've done DDR perfectly fine at that weight. Sure there are some tough songs but for the most the game is all about rhythm and timing which if you know what you're doing doesn't require you using that much effort. =/

There's nowhere I can't reach.

They totally need to make a game where you visibly see Link carry a bazillion items instead of always pulling them out of his ass.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Mmmm glossy. Thanks for the info dude. =)

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

They better charge no more than a dollar b/c those games are ridiculously small and short.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Mario Galaxy needs the nunchuk. Also, Nintendo consoles have always been party consoles since N64. Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2 were big hits at colleges for a while. Consider the next one which probably have the same effect doesn't always require the nunchuk. You'll need a complete set of wii controllers and nunchuks in order to fully play the game.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz will be coming out for Wii. I'm saying it's going to be as big a multiplayer hit as the last two games. However, you don't always need the nunchuk in its multiplayer games. Even so to get a full experience or to be able to play all the multiplayer games you need 4 complete wii controller and nunchuk sets.

Also, do you even do any research? You'd know that the classic controller attachment is what many where speculating the shell would be like. Oh, and yes it's been said that Smash Bros. Brawl may use the cube controllers but it might also use the classic controler attachments. Nothing is set in stone yet for that game.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Saga

I want more Mario party!

Guys! Guys! Important announcement! Saga wants more Mario party! =D

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

It's not like they can't do a firmware update for mouse and keyboard through USB or bluetooth for both the system and Opera. I'm sure if enough people ask for it then it'll be an option. At least I hope it is. It shouldn't be that much trouble.

Jam it back in, in the dark.