[Classic] Koopalings vs Bowser Jr.

I'm going to vote Bowser Jr. because I fucking hate you whiners. Koopalings were pretty shitty bosses anyway. Not that Bowser Jr. is much better but at least the main games he was in had Yoshi's Island-esque bosses. I wouldn't trade that in anyday for some lame battles with Bowser's cousins or children or whatever the fuck relation they were to him. The only good they did was make annoying sing-a-longs for the Super Mario World TV show. I mean I liked the Koopa Kids in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga and for that game I think they might have been robots or something, I can't recall correctly, but anyway beyond that a big ol' MEH I COULD CARE LESS GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES PEOPLE.

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Oh and my favorite ones were the clones that got knocked off the mode-7 rotation shell into the lava WHERE THEY THEN GOT BOILED IN LAVA.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I enjoy how everyone is baseing their love for the Koopalings/ Koopa Kids/ Koopa Cousins/ whatevers on comics and tv shows. That's all they were good for. Based on what they did with them for those mediums could they have done likewise for the games? They could have but they didn't. They're pathetic bosses in-game where it fucking counts and you people are all blind for not admitting it. While much like Boom Boom from Mario 3 Bowser Jr. has some interesting variety that you can predict based on how he is wearing his bandana. A subtlety that the Koopalings are lacking with their predictable boring behavior in both Mario 3 and Super Mario World. Give Bowser Jr. a wooden airship and the Koopalings are complete shit.

If Nintendo could take the Koopalings, make them and Bowser Jr. somehow fit together in a story (like having Bowser Jr. as the eighth Koopling as wiki seems to believe him to be), and have them actually be cool bosses like in M&L:SSS then I'd be fine but that hasn't happened in their platforming history.

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Elixir, Kamek is fucking awesome. That dude must be ageless because he's been there since Bowser was a Baby. He's the cause of all the fucking awesome bosses in Yoshi's Island. <3 Kamek so much.

I don't <3 Kamek when he turns blocks into badguys though. I always hit those things and die.

For a while Kamek was going to be in Mario Kart 64 but then they replaced him with either Donkey Kong or Wario (I can't recall which). He flies on a broom anyway.

The guy also carries with him probably all history of the Mushroom Kingdom too since he's Bowser's guardian. He's very interesting.

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Really, I'm not all that partial to Bowser Jr. either. However my point is that they've done more with him and better than the Koopalings. Both the Koopalings and Bowser Jr. have a lot of potential that isn't being used. I just don't understand the hatred of having 1 slightly better but not-so-great boss plus a bunch of cool bosses versus a bunch of lame-ass bosses that have this spike of nostalgia factor because of Mario 3.

Really, if you guys played Mario 3 for boss battles then you need to get out right now. Mario 3 was known for its levels, enemies, and music. It was a damn great game in those respects but when it came to bosses it sucked ass and although I'm sure the Koopalings had that cool factor b/c the 80's punkrock look or whatever it didn't make up for the fact that it was the same shit over and over. I'd say Boom Boom had more variety than those clowns and that's how Bowser Jr. is in New Super Mario Bros. Likewise Big Boo, the Reznors, and Clown Copter Bowser were the only interesting bosses in Super Mario World.

Do I dislike the Koopalings? I dislike their lame-excuse boss battles but I understand that they could be cool if given a chance. Do I think Bowser Jr. is the coolest boss ever? No. He needs some work even though his fight along side Bowser at the end was really cool. He might be lame in your eyes be it you think he's a rip-off of Baby Bowser (he is older than Baby Bowser you do realize this, right?) or that his motivations seem a bit juvenile. He's a kid. A kid who tries to give Mario a run for his money and actually has a tiny bit of backstory and motivation however crappy you think them. That's more than the Koopalings have.

So that's why I vote Bowser Jr. Not because I adore his character, but because I like him as a boss much more and in the Mario games these bunch of bosses have appeared in that's what matters most.

That being said, I really think Nintendo could have a lot of fun if they brought back the Koopalings as if they had come back from doing their thing in life and have Bowser Jr. get jealous or something since he isn't getting the attention he's been getting for these past few years, have him mastermind some sort of project or some crap. I dunno but you could easily wrap a story around the bunch. The real trick will to give them all good character and have them all be great bosses. And of course all this in addition to great Yoshi's Island-esque original creature bosses.

However, story has its prices and we know that wasn't a very sunny spot in Super Mario Sunshine. Then again the Mario RPGs have proven quite differently so you never know. It could work.

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Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

You do realize that Baby Bowser is... Bowser as a baby, and that Bowser Jr. is his son, right? How the hell is he older than his father? You make no sense at all dude. Where did you get this information in the first place?

I don't think you understood what I meant. Baby Bowser is a toddler in his game. Bowser Jr. in his games is probably like 10 or something. When comparing the two characters take into account their apparant age. I wasn't comparing Bowser Jr. in age to full-grown Bowser. That would make no sense.

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