[PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy Fanboy Fellating Fighting Frenzy!

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia/

New PSP-only Final Fantasy fighting game with Nomura Tetsuya's designs.

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A teaser website of Final Fantasy Dissidia has also been put on the internet by Square Enix. It will not be a role-laying game though. Instead, it is being called as dramatic progressive action game. Square Enix has lined up Tetsuya Nomura as a character designer for Final Fantasy Dissidia.

http://www.gameguru.in/action/2007/0...y-square-enix/

Confirmed characters include Zidane, Kuja, Garland, and a "Warrior of Light" from FFI.


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Trailer

http://www.jeux-france.com/news20592...-en-video.html

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Does this even mean anything? Dramatic progressive action game? What gives?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Aside from the spiked hair, its not THAT far off from the originals. Heck Hero of Light looks like an Amano work despite that art by Nomura.

Zidane looks pretty hot/cute in the artwork. (Slight girlish squee)

Judging from it, it seems like the promo screens will be some Hero VS the antagonist. Squall VS Seifer? Cloud VS Sephy? (That's a HUGE given.) Tidus VS Seymour? Vaan VS Vayne? Not sure about FF6,5,4,3....

More international editions... Hope the extras are justified like Final Mix though...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Nomura is a fucking hack.

He stays true to the designs, you whine, he modifies them, you whine.

Make up your minds!

How ya doing, buddy?

Yeah, but this time I don't see much modifications in Zidane and Light warrior. So what the hell is there to complain about?

Oh right, because Zidane has anime looking eyes and looks nothing like Amano's sketch... No! It's how hes gonna look in the actual game. Amano has beautiful gorgeuos artkwork no doubt, but we all know it will lost alot of its appeal when rendered in 3D. Nomura does a sketch that looks just like how Zidane looked in FF9, only with slightly spikier hair and anime eyes, and that's enough to warrant your constant condratictory opinions? He modifies, you complain, he doesn't modify, you whine.

So what do you want? Amano's look to appear in games? We seen that done in the FF6 FMVs, and personally it lost alot of Amano's details when it goes through modelling and renderring. Amano's work should stay as sketches or graphic novel, paper artwork, put it on 3D form that needs to be ANIMATED and it will lose out alot. Now 2D animation can probably replicate his style. but 3D for gaming purposes? Not so much. Either way, its a lose situation.

So you don't like Nomura. No one cares about that. What we care is that you actually having some constructive critisim and also who you would actually wanna see designing and how you think it should be done. All this constant bashing and no actual preferences or real reasonings behind it its getting real old. To me, and deep down for alot of you, in 3D graphics, Nomura's artwork is more easier to create and won't look like ass, whereas Amano would cause alot of headaches and subsequent backlash from fans. You want a bad character design? The human characters in the new TMNT movie, now THEY look like ass. Nomura's work is subjective, but at least in a 3D look, they don't look out of place or weird.

And as for Setzer, I'm not a big fan of the new look either, but at least there are reasonings, they need him to blend in the KH2 world. If they did a replica, well, he will look so out of place.

I don't like every single Nomura design, I thought Selphie was dull to look at, and I only liked their clothes half the time. But there are characters I really liked, mostly the Org members in KH2. But at least unlike some of you, I'm don't mindless worship like some of you mindlessly bash. And flaming someone for having a different opinion? Mature. Just because someone liked something doeesn't make them a fangirl who will love every single thing, it makes them, I dunno, FANS?! Bashing fangirls or boys isn't gonna make your opinion look better.

Now either MOVE ON from this or actually post something more in your posts than just "Nomura sucks balls." You know, let people see your point of view and reasonings. If you can't do that, you had your say, now move on.

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Every fucking hero he makes needs to have odd-length pants/shorts, a chain wallet for no reason and big feet. He's a joke.

Not for Zidane and Light Warrior, have you even SEEN the image before commencing the mindless bashing?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by GoldfishX

Personally, I'd love to see Amano's artwork brought to 3D. Maybe not IX (the game's ingame cast always looked goofy to me), but the sketches for FFVI were definitely nice enough to warrant consideration.

http://fan.revivify.net/terra/media.php

Its already been done.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Now that you do mention Okami, yes, its probably easier to do it justice to Amano's style. BUT! Will it sell? After all people are more used to mainstream realistic or animeish graphics, Okami is one of those real gems, but was it a top seller compare to say, FF12? It's unlikely Square is 'creative' enough like Clover to wanna go down that route.

In other words it's a risk for them to try something "different" due to business reasonings. Which goes back to the whole milking issue... Again.

FELIPE NO

Finally some actual critisism. And I understand all your points, and agree with some.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna hate his work, but he does need to improve on alot, especially the actual character's looks, and some modifications and changes in the outfits is due.

Latly some of his work in KH2 has gone down, like the cover for Final Mix. Not a very good piece at all. The first Final Mix was much better.

How ya doing, buddy?

I agree with you on that Square need more variety and diversity, and that Square should stop using Nomura so much. I rather just see Nomura stick to the KH series and let some new talent in for the looks for the FF series, or any other ones. I mean the piece of art in Last Remnants doesn't look bad at all.

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I don't think people are adverse to creative art styles like Okami or even the Super Paper Mario look. Maybe not "mainstream", but its' hard to deny their quality.

Unfortunatly for Clover, Okami didnt' do well in Japan. Meaning it sends the message to other companies to NOT let go of the mainstream graphics looks.

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CD samplers from SE party. Wonderful World and Crisis Core in respective topics.

DISSIDIA -Final Fantasy- SPECIAL DISK
01. Overture to DISSIDIA: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QKBULUP4
13. (Secret): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y0HZ5H1U

Credit to NeoStrikeDramon from gamefaqs for the uploads

New characters confirmed!

Cecil, Kain Highwind and.....Sephiroth(meaning that Cloud is in this 100%)

http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/787/787981p1.html

There's nowhere I can't reach.

If you're right about the combat system similar to KH, I'm sure as hell getting this. Duking it out with buddies through Wi Fi as various FF characters? Yeah.

All we need is more characters, like the ones from FF6, and some female ones. Personally I want Lightening from FF13 to be in this one too, but maybe as an unlockable.

And I liked what Nomura did with Kuja and Garland.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Probably cause shes one of the few female that seems to work in this area. Celes and Terra would also be awesome. Tifa also works. Besides, Lightening looks awesome in combat, and this game is all about combat. Yeesh. I'm not gonna even expect much of a story mode, I just want to duke it out with a friend.

But the rest? Rinoa? Yuna? Garnet? Bleh.

And calling a game a travesty over a couple of scans. Yeah, I'm the dense one here. At least wait for some footage before slamming it. Its not meant to be an RPG, its a fighting game. If the combat mechanics sucks or something then at least you hae a reason for slamming it. Until then, keep it to yourself unless you have a reason.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

No, he and I are telling you chill the fuck out and quit making baseless opinions over a couple of images. And to maybe stop insulting our intelligence. Oh, and actually READING what our posts are saying may help, since you obviously were putting words in our mouths from your incoherant rants.

And unlike other fanboys out there, graphics aren't enough to make me like a game. If I just like the graphics, I'd stick to desktop wallpapers instead of shelling out 50 bucks thanks. I think being able play against my buddies through wi fi and playing as various FF characters would be a neat game. If you don't find the idea appealing thats your opinion, but gives you no right to insult others who do.

Now for god's sake's chill. Its just a game, no need to get all pissy at anyone else.

I was speaking idiomatically.

If your opinion gives you the right to slam someone's taste, than by all rights I should be able to do the same, correct? Or is there a double standard I don't know about?

We all have our tastes and opinions, but insulting someone's because it differs to yours make you an asshole and a flamer, and its ruining the discussion. Unless you have anything more to say that's constructive or relevant, then don't post here at all, since its obvious you don't care for the game at all and just trying to attract attention. You made your point, now MOVE ON.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Because a bad artist is subjective, and you don't need to be a film maker to critque a movie, and that applies to art as well. If he can't draw, why would he even be hired in the first place?

Its all subjective, now move on. For Christ's sakes.

FELIPE NO

Then perhaps some actual details and elaboration could have HELPED your argument, instead of stating things over and over. Take a image, use MS paint to point out his flaws then. All I see is you whining and ranting over someone's opinion and over a couple of game screenshots like a lunatic. If you're so informed and educated, by all means grace us with your wisdom and knowledge. At least it would be more constructive than your rants. I'm not asking you to change your mind, I'm asking you to stop ragging on other's taste and opinions, and have some CONSTRUCTIVE argument and reasons to support your own.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Since when have I said it wasn't a fighting game? You confused my posts with Slayer X. I thought it was a fighting game the moment the scans came out.

Like I said, you don't read. And you're just ragging on my posts cause it makes you feel superior. I thought that genre name was ridiculous, since its pretty obivous is a fighting game from the scans. Doesn't mean its gonna automatically make it a crappy game.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

You can't argue then if you're unwilling to read every post carefully. I suggest you stop all this before this derails the thead further. You have your opinion, I have mine, and Slayer X has his. Just leave it at that.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Me being a "Nomuraite" (wow you actually took time to think of this?) is your subjective opinion. Doesn't make it true. There are designs he created that annoyed me belive it or not, you would have known however if you bothered reading the previous posts I made. Would have taken only 10 mins.

And insulting others doens't make your opinion more right or better, it just makes you look like you have a holier than thou attitude. I think you should quit posting in a game thread that you dont give a damn about, cause you're just gonna keep stirring up shit for no reason other than to feed your ego. I asked you to elaborate, you can't even give us that. I can't take YOU seriously cause your arguments have no back up.

Can we all go back to the topic on hand PLEASE?

How ya doing, buddy?

Info on battle system, courtesy of IGN :

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While last week's announcement of Dissidia Final Fantasy (note the order of the name) was certainly a big surprise, Square Enix didn't really reveal too much about the title. Even after a short trailer at the Square Enix Party, all we could do was make guesses about the battle system.

Enter this week's issue of Famitsu, which provides a first full look at the game.

Believe it or not, they actually managed to put together a storyline for Dissidia in order to explain how all the Final Fantasy heroes and villains got together. It all has to do with the god of balance and harmony, Cosmos, and the god of disorder, Chaos. The eternal war between these two is struck with a slight imbalance, leading to chaos filling the world. All hope lies in 10 warriors brought forth by Cosmos.

The long and the short is, Cosmos has called upon a bunch of Final Fantasy warriors to do battle over a fully 3D battle field. Currently, we know that Warrior of Light (FF1) and Zidan (FF9) will appear in the game. Also appearing (apparently from the Chaos side) are their two greatest rivals, Garland (FF1) and Kuja (FF9). Sephiroth should also be making an appearance, based on what we saw in the Square Enix Party trailer.

As suggested by the storyline, there should be at least 10 heroes in the game. This number does not include characters from the villain side, with character designer and creative director Tetsuya Nomura admitting to Famitsu that the development team is currently simply working on getting as many characters as possible into the game.

The characters will feature in a storyline that players will be able to see by clearing the game's story mode with each one in turn. As this game is being made in celebration of the Final Fantasy series 20th anniversary, one of the hopes of the development staff is that fans will exclaim things like, "I was able to meet that character!".

Considering that this is a fighting game at heart, more important than the storyline is the combat system. Fights revolve around the use of an individual set of special skills to do damage to your rivals. Each character's skills are displayed through a command list on the bottom-left corner, which changes based on distance from your enemy and other special factors. The battle system also includes evasion and jumping, although the controls are said to be simple enough that even players who aren't into action games will be okay.

Players are encouraged to destroy the environments. Destroying pillars and other objects builds up your character's "Brave" meter, which gives you access to new attacks. You also gain an advantage by pounding your opponents, as this causes a special move gauge to build up.

Special moves include the skills that you'd expect to see given the background story of each character. Warrior of Light can transform using a Class Change command. So too can Zidane, making use of a Trance command. Warrior of Light also has an Excalibur command, and when facing off long range, gains access to a "Long Range" attack option.

You'll be able to build up experience through battle, growing stronger as you rise in level. You can also customize your characters with equipment. This should make for some interesting wireless fights against your buddies.

This strange twist of the Final Fantasy series is currently without a release date in Japan. However, as it is a 20th anniversary game, we're expecting to get our hands on it some time this year.

There you have it folks, it is a FIGHTING GAME in full 3D enviroment.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

If they HAVE to put people in 12, it better be Balthier, Ashe and Basch. Maybe Fran. But Vaan and Penelo.... Eh..

FF6, god, I want the whole gang. Though I would probably favor the girls like Celes and Terra.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The battles feel like the boss battles in KH2, chaotic, action heavy, and flashy, and various RC type moves going on.

Why the hell is Zidane's voice even more girlish than Ed's JP voice for FMA?! I thought this voice is supposed to be BROKEN!

Kuja sounds awesome.

Sephy's character model looks awesome in Dissidia. (No Marilyn Manson lips.)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

The format is flv. You can save it and watch using flv player. (Have to dig the video out of your internet folder though.)

FELIPE NO

Well, thanks to the PMs by Colonel, I'm going to keep posting.

While I do agree that Square is milking their franchises, if this game turns out to be fun, I'd get it one way or another (illegal or legit).

If this game becomes a series however, then this is going beyond too far. Leave it as a one shot, and they should probably move on to trying to do something original. Luckily there is still Last Remnants. That game will prob determine if Square will keep up the milking.

Though we should all be glad that this is just for the PSP, the more sidekick system as oppose to a full blown next gen game. Now that would be a waste of resources and talent.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Tidus and Jecht? Well I guess that makes sense... Father vs Son good ol' fashion brawl...

Don't quite get Tidus's modified outfit though. Whats with that red jewel hanging on his white shirt?

And I want Terra from FF6. I really really do. This game is getting too much pretty boys to my liking.

Jam it back in, in the dark.