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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
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Kairi Li
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 08:23 PM Local time: Jul 12, 2007, 05:23 PM #1 of 50
I thought Cho and Harry's relationship didn't really have a resolution, and more like drifted apart after the while fiasco in the end. Then in the 6ht book they kinda stopped talking to each other.

Also question on a spoiler I heard in the rumour mill regarding a possible change:

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Trailer hinted that it was Cho who betrays them and not her friend, is this true?


Jam it back in, in the dark.


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Old Jul 12, 2007, 09:09 PM Local time: Jul 12, 2007, 06:09 PM #2 of 50
Spoiler:
Yes. Marietta Edgecomb is not the film. They must have figured it would be an easy way to end Harry and Cho's relationship, due to time constraints, than the who coffee shop fiasco and Harry's insensitivity. I thought it worked pretty well.
Spoiler:
Damn, so the butter beer fiasco isnt' in the movie? That would have be so awesomely teenage awkward. But yeah, time constraints.. Hope it encourages people to read the book though, as Harry and Cho's uncompatalbility is subtle and slowly causes them to drift. The betrayal does save alot of time, but its a bit too cliche.

"You betrayed me so I don't love and trust you no more!"

Where as the book was more about an idealism of Harry's that slowly melts away as he realises Cho isn't as perfect or great as he thought she was. And of course what an emotional rollercoaster she was since Cedric died, and learning how complicated girls are, especially those that weren't really close to you before. Oh and Harry's unintentional insensitivity would have been nice, since the audience would have related to that.

And that even in Book 5, Ginny subtly showed she was alot more compatable than she was. EG: Coming up a better name for the DA, or the fact that when she was a seeker against Cho, she caught the snitch whereas Cho didn't. And of course Cho siding her friend despite the major betryal and fuck up she did was probably the last straw.

But eh, when I saw the trailer, I figured this would happen. Oh well.


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Old Jul 15, 2007, 06:52 PM Local time: Jul 15, 2007, 03:52 PM #3 of 50
The movie was awesome except for Michael Gambon still completely missing the mark. I swear that guy's never read the books or watched the first flicks with Richard Harris. They need to ditch him, or get him to calm down a bit and be more confident, wise, mysterious, and lovable.
He has admitted in an Empire interview before that he never read the books.

I don't care what a veteran Theater actor he is, its acting 101 that you need to RESEARCH your character, especially if its an adaptation.

Saw the movie, visually entertaining, acting was spot on, but the pacing was so so and it was very condensed from the book. Ah well, this is why I encourage everyone I know who watches them to read it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.


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Old Jul 29, 2007, 04:16 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2007, 01:16 AM #4 of 50
I don't mind Gambon, nor could I see Harris performing the duel at the end of this film. He played a good mentor in the first two, but Dumbledore actually has to do stuff now.
Gambon has none of the whimsicalness of Dumbledore, instead chooses to play him as a typical headmaster, which he also admitted in the same inteview I believed.

Anyone who has read the books knows he is not your typical stern headmaster.

C'mon look at what Ian Mckellan did with Gandulf! Dumbledore and Gandulf were constantly compared side by side because of their similar personality.

The fact that this man openly admits never reading or researching the character, unlike Mckellan who actually put some preparation in HIS role, he derserves no respect. Harris at the very leastt, nailed the persona right. Whether or not his health would have allowed him the stunts is another issue, but there's always a thing called "stunt doubles", and Dumbledore isn't exactly wielding a sword around.

Point is, I wanted an actor that actually attemtps to learn about the character, yet Gambon has ruined a visual adaption of the character, and it will be unlikly that we will see another portrayal any time soon. Its not like there's gonna be a remake.

When he
Spoiler:
dies in the 6th movie?
I wouldn't even give a damn. When I cringe everytime Dumbledore opens his mouth, that's a sign of bad casting.

This line killed me in Phoenix.

Quote:
Dumbledore turns to students and says gruffly: Don't you all have studying to do?!
This is something Dumbledore will never EVER say, and certainly not in such a nasty tone, no matter how angry he feels inside regarding Umbridge, he NEVER takes it out on his students.

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:: That sea went on forever, into the blue distance ::
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