iPod or Zen?

I would say Zen all the way. I have a Zen Touch 40GB player, 24-hour battery life, 96dB SNR, sturdy built, replaceable battery, beats iPod in every possible way. Plus the Zen Vision M has won numerous awards, you'll love it, it's an amazing player.

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Prosthetic, do you have any idea what quality is? All my friends have iPods, nearly all of them had serious issues with it, they broke, won't shutoff, dead battery, you name it. I'm sorry but you sound awefully like an typical Apple zealot.

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Actually, all my friends got their iPods from Apple. However, if you talk about quality, it still has to go to Creative, Creative's players beats iPod's battery life by at least 2 fold, in my case, 3 fold. Creative players have really high sound quality, usually at least 94dB SNR or above, after all, Creative is the one that's the leader in audio products, not Apple, and I wonder why Apple didn't list SNR in their specs (maybe cuz they are nowhere near Creative players?). Next structural integrity, I have dropped my Zen numerous times on hard floor from about 1m above the ground, and it's still going strong, iPods on the other hand, is an entirely different story. I could give you more and more facts, but you get the idea. People buy the iPod just to say they have an iPod, it's like fashion, people buy Creative cuz they want a good and reliable player, oh and did I mention about the price, Creative players are much cheaper than iPods. After all, if you want an iPod so you can show it off (well I guess it won't be much of a show off since everybody has an iPod) then by all means go with the iPod, but if you want a high quality player that's going to last, then go with Creative, it won't burn a hole in your wallet too.

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I still don't understand, is a couple more millimeters of thickness going to kill you? And not only does the Zen have a much longer battery life, remember the audio quality, it's always going to superior to that of the iPods.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

YoMan, my proof is that Creative players have SNR of at least 96dB SNR or higher, for iPods, looks like Apple is too ashamed to list the SNR, if it's equally good, why don't they list it? Also, I don't remember an iPod as a equalizer built in, most Zen players have an built-in equalizer.

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Thank you ORLY, glad to see someone who isn't an iPod zealot.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Not only that, but I never liked the looks of iPods, I think Creative players look way more interesting than the iPod, it just looks like a boring piece of brick.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Thank you Kairi, glad to see someone who is reasonable. And RABicle, a lot people can hear differences between different audio quality, like Kairi, I can't stand 128kbps, all my MP3s are at least 256kbp and for complex music I put them at 320kbps. And your comment against Piccolo about his/her music taste is the biggest crap I have ever heard. So you are saying people with good music taste can't spend money on things they want? Bullshit.

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First of all, if you don't even know what SNR is, RABicle, then you should go do your research before coming here and saying things like you know what you are talking about, because I have done my share of the research, I spent 2 weeks researching before purchasing my Zen Touch.

And to neothone, Zen Touch DOES HAVE Unicode Tag support, my Zen Touch is the living proof, I have songs that are in Manderin Chinese, German, French etc and they all get displayed properly on the Zen Touch.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I'm with Rock on this one, I keep all albums in their individual folders and just drag and drop them into my Zen Touch.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Thank you Sian, you are the exact same as me lol, I find iPods boring too.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It worked with firmware 1.x, right out of the box, now I have the upgraded 2.10.05 firmware. By ID3 tag I meant the information that you can edit when you go into Properties of the file, I hope that's what you meant. And some of my files have Chinese, French and German characters in them and they all get displayed correctly.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

RABicle, your stubburness has yet to cease to amaze me, and no I don't work for anyone, I'm a full time university student.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Touch never had a faulty headphone jack, Micro did have it but it was fixed by Creative a long time ago.

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No, I don't think he meant the life span of iPod batteries, but it's capacity. Most users will be lucky if they can get 8 hours out of it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Hmm, from what I have heard and read from various online sources, most people won't get above 8 hours on a battery-drain test, which is like you said, just let the player play without any interference. On the other hand, I did a battery-drain test with my Zen Touch, and after 24 hours of non-stop playing, it still one bar of battery left, so I just stopped it.

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