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US double standard Policy: Iran and India
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Old Mar 5, 2006, 12:20 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 01:20 AM #1 of 42
Well done guys. I think it's fair to say that everyone already knows why the US supports countires like India and tries to suppress those like Iran, even eriol here probably knows that. The point he's trying to make though is that America is being hypocritical about the way it does it.

Bush endlessly preaches about spreading democracy, ending nuclear proliferation etc. He uses these as the absis for war with Iraq, etc. However at the same time, here America is supporting oppressive regimes such as Saudia Arabia and Pakistan while denouncing the the democratically elected Venezuelan and Palestinian governments. America does all it can to stop Iran having anything to do with nuclear weapons, energy while agrees to share nuclear technology with India.

We all know why Bush/America supports these countries over others, because they are friendly and supportive of US interests. It's just that's not the reason we're told, instead we get the bullshit freedom/sercurity line. And in that sense eriol is on the money.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 12:28 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 01:28 AM #2 of 42
But that's not the debate we're having here. maybe start your own thread about the evils of nuclear weaponry and the money wasted on it.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 10:57 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 11:57 AM #3 of 42
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Isn't the reason being given for why we won't let Iran get the bomb because they have a President who has publicly claimed the desire to destroy the nation of Israel? Do you even watch the news, or what?
Yes. The existence of Israel helps American interests in the region so of course they're going to oppose any country that opposes Israel.

I dunno maybe I've delved off topic but I was talking about a bigger picture than just Iran and India.

And since Minion decides that's one's worth is wethor or not they ignore his piss weak analogies or not.
Originally Posted by Minion
Besides, hypocrisy is the wrong word. If you let your friend borrow a buck, but not that creepy guy who is always hanging out at the bus stop, does that make you a hypocrite?
No that doesn't but let's say your policy was "I will not lend a buck" then it does.

America is constantly ramming the "end nuclear proliferation" line not just for Iran but across the board and now they go and share technology with India.

Originally Posted by gukarma
It's sort of hard to argue with you when you, eriol, ignore the fact that Iran has been petulant and non-chalant about going on with nuclear development. They've ignored talks and agreements, so on and so forth.
Ignore the fact that Iran haven't been the aggressor in war for centuries yet India have fought Pakistan on three occasions and China on one in the past century and then one day declared themselves a nuclear power and tested a bomb to prove it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 12:45 AM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 01:45 PM #4 of 42
Red face

Brady I understand why and even support the steps the US has taken on this one particular issue. India needs nuclear energy to prevent it from doubling the worlds fossil fuel emissions and the world's leader in nuclear technology should do all it can to help them develop. I can see why you guys might not want to help out Iran in the same way.

I'm just arguing that US foreign policy as a whole is riddled with double standards. See; my examples about democracy earlier in the thread. It suffers from this hypocracy because the US claims to base it's decisions around a set of values it holds dear when it clearly doesn't.

Originally Posted by Sing
War isn't the only indication that a country is dangerous, though.
Spoken like a true American.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 08:50 AM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 09:50 PM #5 of 42
Originally Posted by Watts
What's good for the world at large, probably isn't good for the European Union.
Originally Posted by Watts
What make's sense for America probably doesn't have to make sense for the rest of the world.
What the fuck is this?

Originally Posted by Cal
Ell-oh-ell two political wrongs make a geoeconomic right so stfu non-America.

These threads make you realise how PP is a basically a microcosm of US foreign policy. There's no sovereignty of argument but American Argument.
Oh I see. Cal wins.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 09:16 AM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 10:16 PM #6 of 42
The debate herre should probably be over wethor or not the American people know the definition of a double standard.

<World in this thread> This is a double standard and heres why
<US> Iran are bad guys
<World> Yeah I know that doesn-
<US> THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP ISRAEL!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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