iPod or Zen?

Storm Petrel doesn't have any friends does he?

Anyway my family and I have been using Apple products for the past 17 years now and the only issues we've ever had was a power supply that died in an old SE after 8 years and dead pixel on Dad's old Titanium Powerbook G3. I swear all these alledged iPod problems are some kind of slander campaign.


News: Apple have awesome customer support. If in the unlikely event of your iPod being faulty, they will fix or replace it.

How would Apple dominate the mp3 market by so much for being crap?

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Originally Posted by Merv Burger

In before comments about Apple stealing Creative's Interface ideas.

I bestow Merv with the blue ribbon for winning the race noone was running in. Three cheers for the champion!

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Rock

For me, iTunes is actually the biggest reason to stay away from iPods. As others have already mentioned, if you're used to transfer files on your computer via drag & drop or copy & paste and organize them in folders, the restrictive database management of iTunes will prove very bulky.

Hahahaha what? I read this as you complaining that iTunes does stuff for you. You want to indiviually move and keep your music organised? Why? Using your computer shouldn't be a chore! You're holding back progress of the entire software programming industry!

I like how iTunes uses drag and drop anyway. This is going to be shocking but usually when I want to fill my measly little 1GB iPod Shuffle with songs I drag from from the Library into the iPod Shuffle icon, all within iTunes.

Originally Posted by Rock

I know there are solutions to bypass iTunes and make an iPod "mass storage"-compatible, but these tools have to be installed on every computer you intend to use your iPod and music collection with. However, I'd prefer to just plug my MP3 player into the USB port of a computer and have it detect the thing automatically (all modern operating systems, including Linux and MaxOS support USB mass storage). That way, you can use the thing to store all sorts of files easily. From my knowledge, this is just not possible with an iPod by default.

Yes this tricky solution is ticking the fucking box.

When I want to print stuff out at uni, I just (wait for it) drag and drop them onto my unmodified iPod Shuffle and then, get this, plug it into any old windows box at uni and order it to print.

Originally Posted by Storm Petrel

Not only that, but I never liked the looks of iPods, I think Creative players look way more interesting than the iPod, it just looks like a boring piece of brick.

Could we be a little less pretentious for a moment?

Originally Posted by Storm Petrel

And not only does the Zen have a much longer battery life, remember the audio quality, it's always going to superior to that of the iPods.

Doesn't look like it.

Originally Posted by Storm Petrel

Creative players have SNR of at least 96dB SNR or higher, for iPods, looks like Apple is too ashamed to list the SNR, if it's equally good, why don't they list it? Also, I don't remember an iPod as a equalizer built in, most Zen players have an built-in equalizer.

What are we even talking about audio quality here? Remind me again, we are talking about listening to compressed digital audio, outside with shitty little headphones right?
I can't even tell the difference between a 128kbps AAC file or a vinyl record. A mate of mine who's pretty much the biggest music buff I know listens to everything as 80kbps mp3.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

YOU BET THAT WITH YOUR MONEY DO YOU? Last time I was at his place I think he used winamp or something and doesn't have an MP3 player.

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Nope. We're talking about listening to un or barely compressed audio using $300 noise-isolating in-ear monitors. I don't know what kind of listening you do, if you can even really call it listening.

Rich. Pretentious. Maggot. I bet WITH MONEY that your taste in music is horrible and your headphones, that cost more than 4 weeks of my welfare benefit, don't make it any more bareable.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

I think we should stick to the topic

This shit is hilarious.

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6. Ability to, while on "RANDOM PLAY ALL" mode, click two times to load the folder that the song that's playing is in (unlike ipod).

How is this useful?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well done on picking that one up Snow Patrol, never mind that it was intentionally ridiculous, mocking the way he drew conclusions based off nothing regarding my friend. I don't even know what music he listens to.

You've also missed the point regarding sound quality. My argument is taht player X having a higher SNR (whatever that is) than player Y is pointless becuase we're all listening to music that has been digitised, compressed, played through a consumer electronic device with shoddy ear bud speakers in a noisy environment like a bus. Sound quality is meaningless. Generally I listen to a lot of punk and alt. rock, the music is often intenionally distorted, or the band couldn't afford a producer to polish it up for them anyway, what's the point of anything more than AAC for something like this? Sure sometimes I can pick up a bit of distortion on a Moby track or something yet somehow I get over it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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And from the way that most people have gave their detailed reasons why they like Zen better, I doubt they are a bunch of mindelss fanboys who just wanna bash the Apple just cause its popular.

Did you miss all of Storm Petrel's posts or something?

FELIPE NO

I'm sure he actually works for creative.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?