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Originally Posted by Visavi
Some of this worries me, but some of it is very good. I think it depends on what she likes. If she likes humor, then the joking around could be good enough if accompanied by something such as, "By the way, there's this movie coming out that's suppose to be funny, do you want to go see it this Saturday?" That way, it's sort of no pressure and it leaves you open for an escape such as, "I just meant going there as friends" if she is worried about getting into a relationship.
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The problem with this is that 90% of the time it sticks you in the friend zone. If a woman is hesitant about getting involved with someone, it's usually because:
1. They like them, but only platonically.
2. Some major shit went down that scared her from relationship for the time being.
Either way, as a guy, you're going to get stuck as a friend, and there's usually little you can do to change her perception about that. You can stick around, somewhat, in case she actually does change her perception. But actively going after her is dumb because you'll only waste you time, money, patience, and probably just reinforce her platonic perception of you.
Touching doesn’t have to be groping, either. It means doing whatever is physically necessary to make her mind associate you with physical/sexual aggression. If she rejects this idea, the guy was doomed from the start. If she accepts it, it’ll help out, as long as you’re good at judging an appropriate limit.
There's nowhere I can't reach.