[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD

Originally Posted by Inhert

come on old Snake?! lol! and wtf with those robot with almost human legs? what happen to those cool Metal Gear? and what? no place to hide? and how is this suppose to be a sneaking mission game?

Sorry, man, but are you an idiot, or what is the matter here?

Originally Posted by K_ Takahashi

I diddnt even know Zanzibar was a country prior to Metal Gear.

That's very special of you.

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Originally Posted by Faust 72

Which Snake would you prefer, the one without stache or the with beard??

The latter one looks like the cliche 'badass grizzled action hero'. At least moustache is something different; I'm glad that Hideo Kojima is not desperately trying to appeal to kids that think everything should look as 'cool' as possible.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

Let's not forget that Kojima was the one who created Raiden in order to please the young Japanese chicks.

Yes, I thought that was quite stupid. Well, I'm fairly certain that Kojima was joking when he said they conducted a survey among high school girls and based Raiden on that, but either way, for me it's even more of a reason to be glad that he's not doing it a second time.

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The Boss, she just.. oh god... she goes on ranting about what it is to be a soldier... it's like... listen up 'hoe', we already know what it is to be a soldier, it's only been pounded into us the past 2 games, plus you're not talking to a f'ing n00b, you're talking to THE snake, even on part 3 he's revered as a great soldier, so why the hell do we even need that speech from her? I complain because it went on for far too long and it was unnecessary to begin with. See what I mean?

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Originally Posted by Pietak

Regarding another idea, isn't postmodernism based on the idea of relativism? To which is the belief of everyone having their own opinion, and there is no good or bad? That would technically say that the norm and abnormal are just as good. But:

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Doesn't GW's purpose outline a more "t" truth approach? Using conventional modernism? Using logic to decipher what should be revealed to the public, and what should be regarded as useless information?

To be honest, I'm not sure what you mean. You can't pin down postmodernism with a simple definition like that, it's a very broad term. Regardless, when people talk about postmodernism in MGS2, I believe they refer mostly to the style of presentation (realism mixed with the supernatural, breaking down the fourth wall, Marvel comix-ish showdowns hand in hand with serious discussion about genes and information), not the details of plot.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Why you gotta ruin a good argument with a dumb picture like that.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

I don't know if they'll re-sync it because the MGS games never really went in sync with the Japanese or the English VA very well so... yeah.

But a PSN release is a must. It would just be plain stupid not to.

Yeah, but since the graphics are more realistic now, it might look weird unsynchronized.

And yeah, Sony will have all their E3 content on PSN.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Roan

Also I was just wondering, are they meant to be played like toys? or displayed through a cabinet? lol

They're meant for autistic people.

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I'm watching the conference live, and the trailer was pretty badical. I've always liked Raiden.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Sepharite

Woah. How did you view the conference live?

It was streaming on Sony's official homepage, and other sites as well.

Kojima has pretty much been saying that this will be the last Metal Gear Solid game ever since the development started. Of course, he's said that about previous parts as well, but he most likely really means it now. I'd imagine he's pretty sick of working on one series for ten years. Good that he's ready to move on instead of continuing to cash in on this indefinitely.

Maybe a new Snatcher game! Neo Kobe, toot

Edit: oh hey, it actually is

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Yeah, if they could give us a nice 8-10 min gameplay vid of continueous play and not just scenes that will make up for the shorter than usual trailer.

At the end of his presentation, Kojima said he's going to do a gameplay demo in Tokyo next week.

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No it doesn't, you're just a weeaboo.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The gameplay demonstration is available, you can get it here: http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_4139_1_en.html (torrent and direct link)

Or try the streaming version here: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/13378 (if you can get it to work while it's being hammered by thousands, that is)

Edit: Gametrailers is pretty much the best option at the moment

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Weapons being ID-tagged was a feature in Sons of Liberty, I don't think anything about that has been mentioned in regards to Guns of the Patriots.

Edit: okay, I must have missed that then.

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Holy shit, this is it, this is the low point of the video gaming forum. 'Keep the cam straight,' laughing out loud.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

The gunmetal colour doesn't even look very good, and considering it's the 40 GB version for a ridiculous price, I don't think anyone should regret not having the opportunity to buy it.

I wonder who the VIP is. Maybe Ennio Morricone?

Also, I think I'll have to avoid reading any games threads or sites until I get my copy. All the previous MGS games have been spoiled to me in some way, but this time I want to make sure it doesn't happen. It's gonna be awesome.

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Apparently the first copies of the game have been leaked today.

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This is the point where everyone who cares about the game might want to take a break from any Metal Gear threads and maybe even gaming sites in general. That's what I'm gonna do, anyway. You never know when some cunt is going to decide to post an untagged spoiler, and this is one game where that should definitely be avoided if you want to fully enjoy playing it yourself.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Stun knife?!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I just watched today's 1up Show, where they talk about Guns of the Patriots, and jesus christ. I wasn't nearly this excited about even Grand Theft Auto IV. 'No... why are you here, wearing an eyepatch?' This game will be monumental. I can't wait to get my copy next week. And I can't wait to see what Hideo Kojima does next. As well as the new generation of postmodernist game designers inspired by him.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Sure. I will admit that 'Insert Credit faggotry' is part of why I like Metal Gear Solid so much. Though, I know that Tim Rogers et al. makes a lot of people angry, so I probably should have avoided saying 'postmodernist', it sounds kind of pretentious. But maybe you know what I mean anyway: more designers like Kojima, Fumito Ueda or Suda51, who do... interesting things with their games.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

That's true. (?)

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Well, uh, of course I understood what you were insinuating, but there's not much to discuss about 'hurf durf metal gear solid more like metal gear BORING'. Once again it's just a difference of opinions. Obviously, not everyone will like that kind of presentation, and that's fine with me, but I like it, and I like Kojima's style of magic realism. Don't call me gay.

That aside though, another reason why I'm excited about Guns of the Patriots is that I checked out the multiplayer beta, and I know it finally plays like a good game. I just replayed MGS 2 last week, and its gameplay mechanics were downright archaic. You can't even move while crouching -- in a stealth game. MGO, though, was just plain fun to play, even as a grunt with none of Snake's arsenal and gadgets.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well alright, so what can I say now? I haven't played Metal Gear Solid 4 yet, so maybe liking or disliking it is indeed not an 'opinion' but a fact, for all I know. Okay? You win? I just shared why I'm excited about the game: because I liked the presentation of the previous parts, and the gameplay mechanics in this one seem to be improved, so perhaps I will like it even more! That's about all I can say at this point, until I finish the game (though even after that, I doubt I'll feel like trying to prove to other people that they should enjoy it). I wasn't really planning to get into a big argument over this.

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade

"Post Modern Gaming" and the folks who associate it with guys like Suda51 and Hideo Kojima, seem to think it has something, anything to do with improving how we play games. When it's more about fusing another genre into the equation in ways that can really interfere with a person playing.

I don't think it has anything to do with 'improving' gameplay, per se, just like I don't think David Fincher or David Lynch have somehow 'improved' film past Spielberg or Coppola. They're just different. I mean, that's the thing. I don't even like killer7 or Ico that much. I have more immediate fun playing something like Burnout or Grand Theft Auto — so yes, in a way that kind presentation can interfere with a person playing, depending on what your expectations are, just like someone wanting to see a Jerry Bruckheimer movie but renting a David Lynch DVD by mistake will probably feel pretty nonplussed.

The point is, those games are trying to move in another direction, they're different from what you're used to seeing, and I like it, because it means that the videogame industry is becoming more interesting and varied, maybe more mature. It's not just about getting lost on the way to film school or whatever. Just because a game has many cutscenes doesn't mean it would necessarily work better as a movie, and it's not just about cutscenes in the first place. It is, as you said, about fusing different genres, and ending up with videogames as a real medium for entertainment and telling stories in its own way that's not quite the same as movies or books. In the future, the majority of games will still be straightforward action, or role-playing, or racing, but more will also be experimenting with something else, and that's generally a good thing, even if the execution is sometimes heavy-handed.

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I don't have a problem with cutscenes, even long ones. But when you begin to try my patience and I get punished for it? That's horse shit. Switching my weapons? Keeping pertinent information in lengthy cutscenes that can't be accelerated? The former head of Sony has the right idea with the new Alone in the Dark. There's chapter select, and supposedly, just MAYBE a cutscene fast forward feature. So you can get to the pertinent info or scan along at your own pace.

Well, I'm not sure what's up with switching weapons, but in the previous games you could skip the cutscenes and just get all information pertinent to gameplay proper by using the codec later. If that's not possible in MGS 4 and you can actually miss some critical gameplay information due to skipping cutscenes, then I guess that's a problem. Not for me, since I like watching all cutscenes anyway, but I can see how it could be annoying.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

And Aard, I play Metal Gear Online a fair amount and it's great. We'll have to add each other.

Sure thing, maybe we can get some Gamingforce matches going, after everyone's done with the main game. Apparently it's region locked, though. That kind of sucks, though I did order the US version at least.

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