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Suspect in police chase likely to face charges for deaths in news copter collision
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Old Jul 28, 2007, 11:30 AM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 06:30 PM #1 of 37
Threatening criminal charges here is just a reaction to being pissed off that innocent people died, but there's no way the fugitive can legally be held accountable for those deaths. Technically he may have been the catalyst of the events, but it's not his fault that the pilots didn't organise their air traffic properly. He didn't directly influence them in any way.

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Old Jul 28, 2007, 11:38 AM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 06:38 PM #2 of 37
My condolances, in any case. Now I'm wondering which pilot was the cause of the crash.
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In the moments before the crash, the pilot from KNXV-TV (Channel 15), Craig Smith, was on the radio with the pilot from KTVK-TV (Channel 3).

The inherent danger and periodic confusion of covering a police chase was clear even though you could only hear one side of the radio transmission.

Pilot Craig Smith is heard asking his photographer and talking to the pilot of Channel 3.

"Where's 3?"

"How far? Oh, jeez."

"3, I'm right over you. 15 on top of you."

"I'm over the top of you."
Basically, I don't think a single pilot was at fault. It must be fucking stressful and confusing for three or more helicopters to fly in close proximity while covering a chase, so frankly it's impressive that such tragedies don't occur more often.

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Old Jul 28, 2007, 01:42 PM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 08:42 PM #3 of 37
In a way, it is similar to if a police car hit another civilian's car during the chase and the civilian died. The victim would have had no direct connection to the guy being chased, and in that sense, I think they could charge them.
Uhhhh, what? The driver of the police car would be 100% liable in this case, no question about it. Being in pursuit does not give police officers a licence to mow down civilians and shift the blame on the fugitive. Or am I mistunderstanding what you said?

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Old Jul 28, 2007, 01:53 PM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 08:53 PM #4 of 37
If that's true, it's beyond all logic. The idea that you can legally get charged for a crime that someone else commits... Man that's fucked up.

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Old Jul 28, 2007, 03:39 PM Local time: Jul 28, 2007, 10:39 PM #5 of 37
From your first paragraph it seems that you think he cannot be charged as the events were out of his reasonable control, but in the second paragraph you talk about him not being charged because of a potential media backlash. I'm confused here, what exactly do you think should happen? Should he be charged with those deaths or not?

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Old Jul 28, 2007, 05:37 PM Local time: Jul 29, 2007, 12:37 AM #6 of 37
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Well, that's not illegal, so it wouldn't exactly be the same situation, you know?

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Old Jul 29, 2007, 03:00 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2007, 10:00 AM #7 of 37
From the police's perspective it wouldn't be. But it can be argued that these situations are equivalent to the press; they're both titillating scoops. Reporters don't have a pressing legal duty, so to speak, to chase after suspects.
Well, they don't have a legal duty, but I assume that sometimes press helicopters do assist the police with information during a chase, as the police likely don't have the resources to send out chopper fleets for every little thing, but the press can apparently do that because toot-toot ratings. At any rate though, it certainly shouldn't free pilots from the responsibility to look where they're flying.

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