[Multiplatform] Grand Theft Auto IV. Not as much fun as shooting real Albanians

yeah that's the wrong tag asshole, way to discriminate against xbox 360

Originally Posted by Tritoch

It sounds like the 360 version will be better, actually. According to the wikipedia article it'll feature two downloadable "episode packs" that include stuff beyond extra cars and characters.

360 is already giving the developers trouble with the limited capacity of a DVD (and they can't put it on two discs either, because who wants to switch discs every time when crossing a bridge or something?). I'm sure they'll deal with it somehow, but downloadable content doesn't mean that the game itself will be better.

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Originally Posted by Musharraf

So why don't we get a 360 then? Well, I won't get a 360, the design sucks ass!

I won't get a 360 because it has a total of about two games that I'm moderately interested in, but I sure don't think that the graphics are significantly different from the PS3, at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Rock

Besides, why is Liberty City New York all of a sudden? It sure didn't look like New York in GTA III. Isn't the GTA "universe" meant to be somewhat consistent?

It's not New York, it's a parody of New York. It has a Statue of Happiness, a Getalife building, four boroughs, etc. It's not sudden, Liberty City has always been based on New York, and current generation consoles are powerful enough to make it actually look like New York.



New York

Liberty City:

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No planes, only helicopters in this GTA.

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Originally Posted by Iwata

You actually mis-read what rockstar was saying. What is giving them troubles is making the game run smoothly on a 360 without a HDD.

I didn't mis-read, this is where I got it from:

Originally Posted by http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163233

During an interview with our partners in crime at Official PlayStation Magazine, Rockstar's creative vice president Dan Houser was asked: "On PS3 you've got a guarantee that every machine is going to have a hard-drive and, with Blu-ray, you've got plenty of storage, whereas on Xbox 360 there's no guarantee of a hard-drive and you're working with the DVD format. Does that create limitations?" To which he replied, "Yep."

Now, it's not a given that a creative vice president actually knows what's creating technical limitations and what isn't, and it was kind of a loaded question anyway, but on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if they did have trouble storing a game as large as GTA on a 7 GB disc.

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Originally Posted by Iwata

" If you have a 360 that doesn't have a HDD, currently we are having troubles making a GTAIV version that will run correctly on your HDD-less 360 and we are working on the problem"

Okay.

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It is also absurd to assume that since that GTAIV is going to be on the PS3 it will look better on the PS3 because the blu-ray has more data disc room to provide.

Didn't say that. I said that both versions will probably look very similar, but they are currently having some problems with the 360 version (which they will most likely solve).

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Gears of war looks 10x better then Resistance when compared side by side on a HD-TV or even a plain TV and this is notion is unanimously agreed upon by the majority of the videogame community.

...ok?

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It is absurd to assume that the PS3 version of GTAIV is going to be supreme, when most facts point to the opposite spectrum.

Again, I never said that the PS3 version is going to be 'supreme,' where did you get that from? All I said is that downloadable content alone won't undisputably make the 360 version better.

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Originally Posted by Shin

As far as extra downloadable stuff for 360 goes, is it not possible that the DLC will be the stuff from the PS3 version they have to leave out of the 360 version because of space restrictions?

Very unlikely, since it's rumored that Microsoft paid quite a few dollars for exclusive downloadable content. If anything, maybe PS3 will eventually get some different DLC.

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Are you mentally retarded, the music was the best part about that trailer.

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Grand Theft Auto IV delayed

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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. (TTWO.O) on Thursday cut its 2007 sales forecast and said it would post a full-year loss, before one-time items, because it needs more time to complete its highly anticipated "Grand Theft Auto IV" video game.

The company's shares slid 8 percent in extended trade following the announcement.

The game, which had been scheduled for release in October, is now planned for release in the fiscal second quarter of 2008, Take-Two said.

In a statement, Take-Two Chairman Strauss Zelnick said "certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected."

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Originally Posted by BlueBomber

Here's looking forward to next summer now.

Spring, more like it, since Take-Two's fiscal Q2 is from February to April. Unless they delay it again. O_O

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Originally Posted by Iwata

They will move far more copies of GTAIV then they would with the october release date.

I wouldn't be so sure, certainly not far more. There are virtually no games coming out in autumn that can compete with GTA IV on most people's priority scale... maybe Halo 3 for some, but that's it. Yes, lots of good games are coming, but GTA is something else entirely. It will sell like crazy regardless of its release date, but it might have done slightly better in late October, since generally game sales are at their highest at the end of the year.

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Originally Posted by Musharraf

GTA IV coming out in Q2/2008 will have to compete with much more other games than if it had come out in autumn 07.

No it won't, there's nothing else coming out in spring 2008. Maybe Metal Gear Solid 4, but not like people can't buy two games.

Also, if you're anticipating a game so much that you're pissed about its delay, you will buy it either way.

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Moved some crap out of this thread

Okay, it's like this: general GTA discussion: ✔. discussing what effect the delay will have on GTA sales: ✔. completely unrelated console wars and debates about who has the most exclusives: ✗. Thanks.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Musharraf

Anyway, from what I've heard, the differences are very slim, the dude from IGN maundered something about framerate hitches, but I don't know who fucking cares as long as the rest is perfect.

He said that both versions have framerate hitches, but texture pop-in is worse on the 360.

Originally Posted by IGN reviewer

Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected.

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud.

Originally Posted by aesop

If it was lead developed for PS3, then that probably explains it.

No, Xbox 360 was the lead development platform.

By the way, there are some live gameplay streams available from leaked versions, for those who can't wait until next week (like me). This one is active right now: Justin.tv - Reign's footage - Live Streaming Video. Liberty City looks incredible.

Edit: another stream, Justin.tv - Live Streaming Video

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GameTrailers' video review is up as well, downloading it now. I was looking forward to it, since GameTrailers usually have the best video reviews, with free HD versions, and I'm sure it will be better than the disastrous IGN video review.

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Originally Posted by Cetra

I'm going with the PS3 version. This is an example of the pop-in reviewers are complaining about on the Xbox 360 version.

Not necessarily; it's likely just the effect of a badly pirated game. I really doubt the actual problems in either version are that severe.

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Originally Posted by Qwarky

Iwata said GTA4 has the option, so maybe this one finally does. Everything else seems to talk about the load times as if there isn't an option. CURIOUS.

No, there isn't an optional install for the 360.

Originally Posted by Kotaku

Does the Xbox 360 have a hard drive installation?
No. There is no required installation, nor is there an optional one.

GTA IV FAQ: Everything You Wanted To Know About GTA IV (So Stop Asking!)

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Originally Posted by Living Legend

Thinking of how big GTA is as it is now. I wonder why Driver never took off. It was GTA before GTA was what it was. 3D world, getting out of your car exploring, killing people (I think?) I loved that game.

You could get out of your car, but it was absolutely retarded and didn't resemble Grand Theft Auto at all. You couldn't kill people in Driver and Driver 2 (though that's not a bad thing; they were car games, not shooters). I guess you could shoot in Driv3r, but I only played that game for ten minutes, since they totally ruined the car handling.

The first Driver was great though, and I liked the sequel as well. If they hadn't started including the on-foot sections and just concentrated on car chases, it could've developed as a successful series. The concept and the setting they had was really cool. Too bad they fucked up the execution.

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If there's one game this generation that actually deserves a 9.5+ score, it's Grand Theft Auto IV. You can always find things to complain about, but that's missing the forest for the trees; overall the game is great.

8.7 would be an okay rating if the site was stricter than average with other games as well, but they rated Assassin's Creed 9.0.

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So what? No game will ever be perfection. When a movie critic gives two thumbs up, do you expect 'perfection' or just a great movie?

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He's saying if you already have the game on PS3, you don't need to pay for the Xbox 360 version as well, since you can just get the disc with the standalone expansions.

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Originally Posted by BZ

But they aren't selling the stand alone expansions for the PS3, as far as I heard. Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Tritoch

Yeah, that article says both the download and disc versions are 360-exclusive. Several times, in fact.

Jesus...

If you have both consoles, and you have bought GTA 4 on the PS3, to play the DLC you don't need to buy another copy of the original game on the Xbox 360, because you can just get the disc with both expansions, which will work without the original game.

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