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[Multiplatform] Devil May Cry 4
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 05:48 AM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 12:48 PM #301 of 321
That's great and all. But sometimes the HDD installation doesn't increase anything (VF5 is just as fast on the 360 as installed on the PS3). Othertimes it makes a huge difference. Therefore I'd like to see a video comparison of the load times or at least a testimony as to whether it makes a difference. But seeing how it's only out in Japan right now and that only like 2 people own a 360 over there it seems, I probably won't find out till the game comes out here.
HDD Install = NO loading times

That's right, it doesn't just cut down on loading, it removes it completely.



It's been confirmed by Kobayashi and Shane from 1up who played the game on the PS3 with the HDD install.


So yeah, it does make a difference.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 09:29 AM Local time: Dec 31, 2007, 07:29 PM #302 of 321
That's great and all. But sometimes the HDD installation doesn't increase anything (VF5 is just as fast on the 360 as installed on the PS3). Othertimes it makes a huge difference

read this gain dude, he said 2 things that you should notice before replying
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But "sometimes"
Othertimes it makes a "huge difference"


and yeah "sometimes" it really dont make difference play folklore and VF5 on PS3 for homework.

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 03:54 PM Local time: Dec 31, 2007, 02:54 PM #303 of 321
That's great and all. But sometimes the HDD installation doesn't increase anything (VF5 is just as fast on the 360 as installed on the PS3). Othertimes it makes a huge difference

read this gain dude, he said 2 things that you should notice before replying
let me help

But "sometimes"
Othertimes it makes a "huge difference"


and yeah "sometimes" it really dont make difference play folklore and VF5 on PS3 for homework.
If a HDD installation doesn't offer any advantages, I think it is pretty safe to assume a poor implementation or the game just don't need it... in any case, let's wait and see.

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 04:37 PM Local time: Dec 31, 2007, 02:37 PM #304 of 321
We're gonna trust the development team on everything but the differences between the two console releases? Come on, I'm pretty sure the PS3 version is going to be the definitive version of the game. It was probably meant to in the first place. Shit, I'm considering getting one at the moment because of it.

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 04:58 PM Local time: Dec 31, 2007, 03:58 PM #305 of 321
We're gonna trust the development team on everything but the differences between the two console releases? Come on, I'm pretty sure the PS3 version is going to be the definitive version of the game. It was probably meant to in the first place. Shit, I'm considering getting one at the moment because of it.
I have to agree with everything. However, when we are dealing with ports It's had to know how much weight the development team has on the final product. (Think in something like Unreal Tournament III vs Orange Box)

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Old Dec 31, 2007, 05:10 PM Local time: Dec 31, 2007, 03:10 PM #306 of 321
This kind of stuff is all just one big PR event anyway, it sells games and magazines and gives sites large amounts of traffic. Developer's words in an interview are always going to be marked by the final quality of the game and that's why you're absolutely right Tafer.

And it's fucking annoying. *grumpy frown*

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 11:54 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 06:54 PM #307 of 321
First review, 15 hours long, DMC4 manual excerpts + lots of bitching and console wars NeoGAF style.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 01:30 PM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 11:30 AM #308 of 321
The poster's links aren't working and his review leaves much to be desired. Just because he's first out the door doesn't always mean it's going to be worth much. Guess I'll wait for redirects or working media links.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 04:13 PM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 11:13 PM #309 of 321
The poster's links aren't working and his review leaves much to be desired. Just because he's first out the door doesn't always mean it's going to be worth much. Guess I'll wait for redirects or working media links.
That's not MY review, it's from a German magazine called GamePro. And the links work fine, check again.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 04:20 PM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 02:20 PM #310 of 321
Dave, when I did say "The Poster", it certainly wasn't meant to be referring to you as if you weren't in the room for lack of a better term. In plain english, I meant "The Poster" at the GAF thread you linked to, which I will point out goes to page 3 rather than the actual beginning of the thread. However... I'm assuming YOU'RE the thread creator there and in that case... mah bad, dawg.

Anyway, the scans aren't loading for me, if they're working for other people it's just my loss. Don't mean to cut any of your steam on this.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 04:23 PM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 01:23 PM #311 of 321
Thank god, developers are starting to make good use of the PS3 standard HDD. With some luck, we'll never see a Suikoden V or Tales of Abyss on the PS3.

But at 5 gigs a game it looks like I'm going to be upgrading the 60Gb drive sooner than later.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 05:17 PM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 12:17 AM 1 #312 of 321
Anyway, the scans aren't loading for me, if they're working for other people it's just my loss.
Packed all the scans in a .rar:

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 05:25 PM #313 of 321
According to the review, one of the negative aspects of the game is that it is "too bright"...are they kidding?

You shouldn't be allowed to review anything unless you are literate with technology...is it Capcom's fault that the moron probably had his set torched at factory settings?

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Old Feb 15, 2008, 07:24 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2008, 06:24 PM #314 of 321
*in reference to my impressions post on the back-up forums, too lazy to give another mini review*

After playing the game some more, I gotta say Swordmaster style is awesome this time around. The Over Drive skill is the greatest fix they did for Drive, there's much more incentive, as well as ease, to use it now. Heh, and plus it's a style booster. Pandora's box is pretty sweet too, sort of an all in one.

BTW, anyone manage to get past level 20 in bloody Palace? Heh, I can't seem to beat Berial. Though, I place the blame on Blitz on level 18, that bastard either chews up my HP bar or my remaining time.

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Old Feb 15, 2008, 07:33 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2008, 05:33 PM #315 of 321
I've gotten to Level 37 on Bloody Palace. But I'm selling my copy to a friend, so that's kind of an empty venture to me. Best thing I can recommend for Nero since he doesn't have Dante's firearms is Charged Shot 3 on the Blitzes and a Full DT Gauge. When you knock the electricity off, use Buster 3 times and then just shoot the crap out of the Blitz.

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Old Feb 18, 2008, 05:12 AM Local time: Feb 18, 2008, 06:12 PM #316 of 321
Well, so far I've been pretty satisfied with DMC4. I know a lot of the stuff that you could do in DMC3 is no longer available here (Quicksilver, running along walls, etc) but it still feels right once you play. And the hdd installation was no big deal really.

The story is okay as far as DMC stories go, but the characters are pretty cool and I really enjoyed playing this game. If only they cleared up some of the mysteries surrounding Nero and that Devil Bringer...

Seeing Trish and Lady in the game was an added bonus but it would've been cool if they were playable as well or more involved in battles. I guess we'll see what Capcom comes up with in DMC5.....



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Old Feb 18, 2008, 06:55 PM #317 of 321
There are a few tricks you can use on the Blitzes with Dante. Pandora with a little bit in the disaster gauge can immediately disable the electrical shielding with it's final attack and apparently if you can time Royal Guard well you can smack them and then counter the electrical discharge (I've yet to try this way but I saw a youtube video of it earlier).

Zipping through DMD rather easily too. This game is definitely no where near as difficult (or cheap) as DMC3 was, and it's still a bit easier than the original I feel like too. (DMC1 had some rape bosses on DMD like nightmare 3 but otherwise it was decent)

I still really like the game, but I have to admit I was surprised when I started up DMD and zipped right up to mission 15 with minimal effort. I could say it's cause I'm used to the games now (dmc1 and 3 make good practice I guess) but I still honestly believe the game is just generally easier too.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 24, 2008, 11:03 PM Local time: Feb 24, 2008, 10:03 PM #318 of 321
The Royal Guard with DT Real Imact method actually works really well against Blitzs. The only thing is that I suggest getting a fully charged disaster gauge for Pandora and unleash Argument on him when he goes red.

Still working through DMD mode, and the only real frustrating part I found was the stupid chess board in mission 6. Bleh, I hated how Dagon was one of fights if you landed on either the red or purple. It was also annoying how if you overshot the amount of steps to the exit they force you to step back by the amount you overshot. And man, Frosts are so much more annoying in DMD (launching projectiles every chance they get).

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Old Feb 25, 2008, 01:52 AM #319 of 321
I found that it's pretty much a 100% success for whatever number you want to land on if you just wait until it's on the top and simply swipe at it with the standard devil bringer so the dice doesn't actually move away from where it's rolling. I never landed on a tile that I didn't plan out beforehand that way, so mission 6 and 19 really weren't that bad.

I'm trying to work my way through Hell or Hell now (well, after my LO break at least) and 19 is probably the only mission that sort of scares me. The first Agnus fight wasn't very pleasant either but I managed through it anyway.

Edit: In case you didn't notice the numbers on the dice follow a coordinated/set pattern so say, 4 will always be right after 1, etc.

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Old Feb 25, 2008, 02:00 AM Local time: Feb 25, 2008, 12:00 AM #320 of 321
The dice alternate between number sets 1 through 3, and 4 through 6. Most often, you'll see it pop up 1, then 4, then 2, then 5, then 3, then 6. Anything else is just a mix of that group. No matter how many times you hit the dice, it'll always be the number that was face up when you struck it. It's not really difficult... just inane and tedious. I hate the level design because of shit like that, but certainly isn't the toughest thing you'll run into during the game.

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Old Mar 12, 2008, 10:24 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2008, 10:24 PM #321 of 321
Yeah, I was assuming that everyone knew that DMC3 was a prequel. Heck, they could even have Vergil come back easily if you've seen the extra cutscene in DMC3's ending. With Mundus out of commission he could be on his own again, looking for more power maybe?

I know I'm kinda late to the thread, but to clarify any confusion. The actual storyline goes from DMC3 to DMC to DMC4 to DMC2. Because if you have seen any of the new trailers and ads (since the game is for sale), you can see that Dante has already met Lady and Trish (in that order, chronologically) but he never once mentions arius or lucia or matier. This hints that those events haven't happened. And Virgil may not be coming back as of decisions now because if you remember, he floated into the air, there was a small explosion noise and his half of the amulet dropped to the ground. Therefore, it is believed that he is dead, but he could very well be part of the demonic soul that consumes Nero's right arm.

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And to elaborate more above, since DMC3 was a prequel to DMC, the special cutscene at the end was supposed to explain how Virgil became influenced by Mundus' power in DMC

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