[General Discussion] Getting Involved With The RPG Video Game Genre For The First Time.

I can't remember the first RPG I ever played, but it was probably something like Shining Force II for the Megadrive, or Landstalker, or something. Both games were fun, although I liked Landstalker miles over SFII, and never bothered to finish either of them. The first RPG which I actually bothered to complete was FFVII, which was very good, although highly overrated now. I like the game, I just don't like the fanbase, or:

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I've noticed something. Almost everyone I meet who claims to like FF VIII are people of, at best, suspect intelligence. At worst, borderline retarded. You called it Dawson's Creek with swords, and it's a good analogy. People who like FF VIII are the kinds of people who like that and the Gilmore Girls. Depth replaced by whining. Ugh.

Assumptions made by people who try categorizing people by their preference of role playing game, for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

Assumptions made by people who try categorizing people by their preference of role playing game, for that matter.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I've noticed something. Almost everyone I meet who claims to like FF VIII are people of, at best, suspect intelligence. At worst, borderline retarded. You called it Dawson's Creek with swords, and it's a good analogy. People who like FF VIII are the kinds of people who like that and the Gilmore Girls. Depth replaced by whining. Ugh.

Yeah, see, I highlighted the important bit there, Orson. I'm not categorizing people based on their preference of role playing game. I'm pointing out a correlation between people I meet who like the game and are, you know, socially awkward retards. But yeah, clearly what I said was that everyone who likes FF VIII is an idiot. "A lot of people I meet who like FF VIII are also idiots" clearly equals "everyone who prefers FF VIII must be dumb."

Please don't try talking to the grown ups until you can learn to read and comprehend.

Good hustle, Orson.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

When I was a kid, I had a friend who lived down the street that I traded games with a couple times. At one point, I acquired Dragon Warrior from him. Pretty much everything I owned up until that point had been platformers. I quite enjoyed it, though I did find it a bit slow paced. I liked that I could explore a huge world, interact with characters, cast spells, and the like. But I didn't really seek out any other RPGs, because I hadn't thought about it as a genre. Had I seen another Dragon Warrior game, or known there was more than one for the NES, I would've begged for it.

But, as it was, I didn't play another RPG for years. I learned about the genre from gaming magazines, but never felt strong urges to seek it out. Not until Mario RPG came out, with me being a 12-year old Mario fanboy, did I try another RPG. And that got me pretty hooked on them for a while.

Oddly enough, I didn't try any Final Fantasy games until Final Fantasy 8 came out. And I didn't like FF8 that much then, and I certainly don't like it now. But most of all, I'm amazed I even gave any other games in the series a shot, because by all means, I should've been so turned off by that monstrosity that I would never touch another FF game again. But, I've discovered some actual good games in the series, and I'm glad I gave them a shot.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

Yeah, see, I highlighted the important bit there, Orson. I'm not categorizing people based on their preference of role playing game. I'm pointing out a correlation between people I meet who like the game and are, you know, socially awkward retards.

I think that might have something to do with their experience with Final Fantasy VIII!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

I think that might have something to do with their experience with Final Fantasy VIII!

Or it might have something to do with a certain personality type being predisposed to liking the shitty game! OMG! Guyz! People who liek gay teenage melodramas mite lieks FF VIII? Holy fuck, what a stretch.

Orson, I don't know why you even keep trying. You've been a failure since the first moment you hit this board.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

Or it might have something to do with a certain personality type being predisposed to liking the shitty game! OMG! Guyz! People who liek gay teenage melodramas mite lieks FF VIII? Holy fuck, what a stretch.

Orson, I don't know why you even keep trying. You've been a failure since the first moment you hit this board.

How.. mature. That would be categorizing, yes yes, I can see it now. Just because you've met a bunch of so-called "socially awkward" individuals who just happen to like FFVIII, doesn't mean anything. It's a personal experience. I'm sure there's other socially awkward people out there, met or not, that don't like FFVIII.

Saying that someone with a certain personality might like a game is retarded, and I'm sure there's people with all kinds of personalities that do and don't like FFVIII. You just haven't met them (oh my god I need to bold to emphasize on something since I have such a bad comprehension of reading) yet.

I'd say get new friends or something but you're probably just going to meet more socially awkward retards.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

How.. mature. That would be categorizing, yes yes, I can see it now. Just because you've met a bunch of so-called "socially awkward" individuals who just happen to like FFVIII, doesn't mean anything. It's a personal experience. I'm sure there's other socially awkward people out there, met or not, that don't like FFVIII.

Saying that someone with a certain personality might like a game is retarded, and I'm sure there's people with all kinds of personalities that do and don't like FFVIII. You just haven't met them (oh my god I need to bold to emphasize on something since I have such a bad comprehension of reading) yet.

I'd say get new friends or something but you're probably just going to meet more socially awkward retards.

They're not my friends. They're people I've met. See, those of us that have a real life meet lots of people, and not all of them are our friends. Especially not when they are, as I've stated, socially awkward retards. Though even they have the advantage of not looking like a cartoon pig.

Also, yes, that's what I said. People I've met are like this. I didn't say all people are like this. I said there was a correlation within the people I've met. So again, reading comprehension, Orson. Learn it. Use it.

You always get so butthurt whenever anyone slags on a game you like. Get over it.

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Ignore lix, Deni. It's a scientific fact that people who consider FFVIII the best one are idiots who have even less capacity for long-term memory than Squall does.

It kind of explains some things, like how Elixir keeps fighting every fight like it was his first on the internet.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I dunno, do you guys count action based stuff? Because that'd probably be either Zelda that came bundled with my NES or the SMS' Golden Axe Warrior (Sega sure didn't hide their inspiration for this game!) at my mates place. Then along came uh, Landstalker and Secret of Mana (this, Super Bomberman and Street Racer made the combined forces of our pocket money towards a multitap a very EROTIC WISE decision yes yes). It was a pretty rare thing for an RPG to get a PAL release, let alone wash up on our shores. First turn based RPG I played was probably Mystic Quest Legend. I remember it pissing me off so much, I bet I had a cry over it.

Also Deni, Elixir, I love you both, and I'm aware this is the RPG section and all, but the pointless draaaaaama raaaage!

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posted before I saw your reply, sorry infernal

Yes, that's a personal experience, and it doesn't have something to do with FFVIII.

It doesn't make the game bad, or good, or anything.

For the record, I don't like FFVIII at all. I bought the game, tried to get into it a bunch of times, and I even made it just past the part where you have to beat some giant enemy that what'shisface is using against you while holding Rinoa captive. The game looks ugly as hell now, I dunno how I bothered with it or why I used to marvel at the GF summons. I never finished it, and I never cared of it. I won't go back to it.

Anyway, point missed like fuck. Knowing people who are of a certain type has nothing to do with the game, or any game, and isn't related to FFVIII whatsoever. It's all just you throwing off assumptions and it's just a coincidence that the people you know happen to like the game. It doesn't mean anything. But it's obviously intriguing enough of a life experience to post about it on the internet.

And just because you don't like the game, doesn't mean everyone else dislikes it too. I don't honestly care for the game, as I've stated previously, but what you iplied wes everyone who happens to like the game is doing something wrong, based on the people you've met having crap personalities and just happen to like the game as well.

Furthermore, I don't think anyone cares about little tidbits of Life With Deni that're vaguely related to a game. Oh, hey guys, I have a bunch of friends who are all morons and absolutely drool over Crackdown, the game sucks. Because they're morons.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

Yes, that's a personal experience, and it doesn't have something to do with FFVIII.

It doesn't make the game bad, or good, or anything.

For the record, I don't like FFVIII at all. I bought the game, tried to get into it a bunch of times, and I even made it just past the part where you have to save Rinoa in space, but then I gave up. The game looks ugly as hell now, I dunno how I bothered with it or why I used to marvel at the GF summons. I never finished it, and I never cared of it. I won't go back to it.

Anyway, point missed like fuck. Knowing people who are of a certain type has nothing to do with the game, or any game, and isn't related to FFVIII whatsoever. It's all just you throwing off assumptions and it's just a coincidence that the people you know happen to like the game. It doesn't mean anything. But it's obviously intriguing enough of a life experience to post about it on the internet.

I never said it did. I said people I've met who really like the game tend to be idiots. You're the one getting all bent out of shape over it, Orson.

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And just because you don't like the game, doesn't mean everyone else dislikes it too. I don't honestly care for the game, as I've stated previously, but what you iplied wes everyone who happens to like the game is doing something wrong, based on the people you've met having crap personalities and just happen to like the game as well.

No, what I implied was that it had shitty character development and a bad narrative. So they like something with bad character development and a bad narrative. Which has nothing to do with people I've met, you retard. And everything to do with the game being ass. But please, keep arguing. I'm getting a good laugh out of your fat ass being so reformed as to pick fights over something I never even said.

"It's a stupid game. Pretty much everyone I meet who likes it is an idiot."

"NOT EVERYONE WHO LIKES FF VIII IS AN IDIOT."

"No, I never said that."

"NOT EVERYONE WHO LIKES FF VIII IS AN IDIOT."

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Furthermore, I don't think anyone cares about little tidbits of Life With Deni that're vaguely related to a game.

You're basing this on the fact that pretty much everyone here hates you and wants nothing to do with any opinion you have. I'd shed a tear for you, but I'm too busy laughing.

Settle down, butthurt. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Hahaha, you can express as much angry nerd rage for a game I don't like, as much as you like, porky. And you can justify your bashing as much as you want, I don't care. Post #35 pretty much sums it up and could be written again considering I think you skimmed through it too quickly. A mod's told us to stop, so do so.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Hahaha, you can express as much angry nerd rage for a game I don't like, as much as you like, porky. And you can justify your bashing as much as you want, I don't care. Post #35 pretty much sums it up and could be written again considering I think you skimmed through it too quickly. A mod's told us to stop, so do so.

That was so cute, the way you basically just paraphrased exactly what I'd said to you and thought no one would notice.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I'm fairly young so my first experience with rpgs started around the playstation and gameboy colour eras. I might have played an rpg on an snes at a friend's house but i simply can't remember. but the first rpg i owned was probably pokemon red/blue for gameboy. it's didn't have much of a story, but i really liked the leveling up thing since i've only played platformers and puzzle games before. so pokemon got me into the whole genre and i discovered legend of legaia, played it and got even more interested. Then my friends showed me FFVII, i bought it and i've been a fan of the series ever since.

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I was among the rare few that missed hit titles like of Final Fantasy and Zelda. I started my rpg rampage from Dragon (Warrior)Quest series. I think its because my rental video store was one of those niche stores that carried decent titles but the likes of FF and Zelda were always rented out. I really miss that Two-Day Video store.

After DQ, I went on to play other nes gems like Legend of the Ghost Lion, Gargoyle's Quest II, Faria, Crystalis and Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom!

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Me, I always liked fantasy oriented worlds and I soon found out that as a gamer you can usually can only get your fantasy fix in RPGs. I started out with Free Dragon Warrior from Nintendo Power, Final Fantasy, and pen and paper Dungeons and Dragons. I played many other NES RPGs such as Ultima and Crystalis, but none of them really felt as fun as Dragon Warrior, not saying Final Fantasy because we only got 1 for the NES over here as opposed to 4 Dragon Warriors.

SNES era, I think I really played almost every major RPG except Earthbound(Don't kill me). I loved most of them except Robotrek and Illusion of Gaia since I was so horribly lost in those. I remember hitting a point in Robotrek where my robots were all maxed out and I was lost and was getting my butt kicked.

I've liked virtually every Final Fantasy before FF8. I played FF8 when a friend got it for me for my birthday. I got to some point in the second disc and quit out of boredom. Seriously the only things I liked about that game were Shiva and the track "Man with a Machine Gun".

I actually haven't played many PS2 RPGs, but that's partially due to the fact that I'm a recovering MMORPG addict.

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Well, at the risk of inciting Deniwrath, Final Fantasy VIII is the reason i'm still playing RPGs today.

Way back in the day a friend of mine exposed me to Chrono Trigger. From there i thought i might play that game, and i did. I rented it countless times, along with one other that i found, Super Mario RPG. Unfortunately, after i was done, i didn't have any recomendations or anything from anyone (cause that friend moved to BC).

After a while some friends of mine started playing more RPGs, and the first one i saw them play was Final Fantasy VIII. From there i knew i really wanted to play RPGs again, and haven't looked back since. FFVIII has always been one of my favourites most likely for sentimental reasons, and because i do generally enjoy it when i play though it.

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I was also one of the lucky people who got to play Dragon Warrior thanks to a subscription to Nintendo Power. I recall I didn't understand much of what was going on when I first played it. I was five and living in a french community at the time, so I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that I didn't get much of what was being said. I do recall that when the first Final Fantasy came out, I thought it looked so cool after seeing my cousin play it that I asked my parents for it as a birthday present and pretty learned to read english while playing it.

From then on, I was hooked and played any RPG I could get my hands on: Crystalis, The Magic of Scherezade, D&D: Pool of Radiance, DW II,III,IV, Ultima, Wizardry and a bunch of others are all games I recall playing and for the most part enjoying before I went on to the SNES. I also remember we got a PC around that time and I played a bunch of PC RPGs though I couldn't recall their names for the life of me.

The game I have the fondest memory of though (besides FFI) has got to be Breath of Fire I. I had asked my parents for it on my tenth birthday and I promised to put my allowance money aside to pay for part of it. Now, we had to order the game through a Sears department store and it took longer to arrive than it was supposed to, so I remember getting it a week or two after my birthday. How sweet it was to finally play that game...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

In my observation, every thread Deni posts on turns into a flame war between Deni and [insert name of innocent poster who did absolutely nothing except post a viewpoint which just happened to differ from Deni's]. If anyone should be banned...

Anyways, my first RPG was tragically FFVII (tragic because I missed out on the majority of the SNES era, due to me coming to videogames a little late). But not tragic because I was instantly hooked. And get this: it was for the PC. I never owned a Playstation. My SECOND RPG was Super Mario RPG because I realized I loved them. My third was FFVIII (PC), fourth FFIX (after I acquired a PS2), fifth Chrono Trigger, and from there it blossomed into a lovely boquet of RPG sex.

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Originally Posted by Cheezeman3000

In my observation, every thread Deni posts on turns into a flame war between Deni and [insert name of innocent poster who did absolutely nothing except post a viewpoint which just happened to differ from Deni's]. If anyone should be banned...

Anyways, my first RPG was tragically FFVII (tragic because I missed out on the majority of the SNES era, due to me coming to videogames a little late). But not tragic because I was instantly hooked. And get this: it was for the PC. I never owned a Playstation. My SECOND RPG was Super Mario RPG because I realized I loved them. My third was FFVIII (PC), fourth FFIX (after I acquired a PS2), fifth Chrono Trigger, and from there it blossomed into a lovely boquet of RPG sex.

Right, because I'm the one who made the snide, backbiting comment that started that. I'm sure the world waits through the pregnant pause prior to the weighing in on board politics from the cheezeman.

Also, that's the most random movement through RPGs I've ever seen. How did you go from PC FF VII to Super Mario RPG? Where was the connection?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Have to agree with the Cheezeman up there; I can't think of anyone else who needs some time away from the forums to sit and learn how to interact with others respectfully more urgently than Denicalis does.

As far as RPGs go, my first was FF1. I actually bought the Nintendo Power guide at a garage sale before I'd ever played the game on a whim, and when I was about eight years old a store in town was going out of business and I found FF1 brand new there for eight bucks, so I scooped it up and never looked back.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

if Zelda and Secret of Mana don't count, my first RPG would be 7th Saga. It was fun and I am hella nostalgic for it. I saved my pennies and asked my father to buy me Mana, but he got confused and got me Final Fantasy VI instead. After that I rented every RPG I could get my hands on.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

Right, because I'm the one who made the snide, backbiting comment that started that. I'm sure the world waits through the pregnant pause prior to the weighing in on board politics from the cheezeman.

Also, that's the most random movement through RPGs I've ever seen. How did you go from PC FF VII to Super Mario RPG? Where was the connection?

Yeah, it really is a random connection. It must've been because I loved Mario games and owned all of them except the RPG one because I had no idea if I would like it or not. Then, when I found out I liked FFVII, it was time to try it out!

As for the comments, I don't really think you need to be "banned," I mean it's not really even my place because I'm not a mod, but I think you should take a step back sometimes. Regardless of whether you start the arguments, they do seem to flock to you, would you not agree? While we ARE on the internet, I'd rather not see namecalling on an RPG thread.

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Originally Posted by Cheezeman3000

Yeah, it really is a random connection. It must've been because I loved Mario games and owned all of them except the RPG one because I had no idea if I would like it or not. Then, when I found out I liked FFVII, it was time to try it out!

Well, it's a hell of a good second choice. One of the best ever made.

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Originally Posted by Denicalis

Well, it's a hell of a good second choice. One of the best ever made.

I was actually really surprised and it quickly became my favorite game at the time. Still own the SNES cartridge to this day. Just wish I had gotten into RPGs while Chrono was still available for under $100... had to settle for emulators. Same for FFVI and SoM. Those golden years just sneaked by me.

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