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Old Aug 23, 2007, 11:02 PM #151 of 174
I'm confused, how do you already know it failed, and why would you use it then?

Anyway, I'm attacking Akita, Iwate, Aichi, and Shizuoka.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 11:26 PM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 10:26 PM #152 of 174
nuttyturnip announced this first in #gfwerewolf on irc and I told him, that's how it transpired.

orion_mk3 reclaims Oita and Saga
but was not able to take over Fukuoka and Southern Hokkaido
Tritoch was unable to conquer Shizuoka

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:01 AM #153 of 174
It’s time to END THIS.

I purchase Godzilla and unleash him on Aomori, Akita, and Iwate.
I purchase another Godzilla and unleash him on Shimane, Hiroshima, and Yamaguchi.
The 6 gil I obtain from these conquests gives me enough money to purchase a third Godzilla, which I unleash on Kumamoto, Oita, and Miyazaki.
I use one of my remaining Tanks to conquer Kagoshima.
I use my King Ghidorah to conquer Saga, Nagasaki, and Okinawa, with the additional 2 countries being Gunma and Nagano.
See below for correction.

That should finish off orion_mk3.

I use my Washed-up Idol on Tritoch.
Provided I have enough money from conquering orion, I purchase Ninjas and use them today. Not enough money.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:07 AM #154 of 174
Perhaps I'm finished off, perhaps not.

My question is, where does the "The 6 gil I obtain from these conquests" come from? The entire offensive seems to revolve around that crucial point.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:12 AM #155 of 174
Actually, I screwed up the sequence, because for some reason I thought we got 10 gil per day. Here's the correction:

I purchase Godzilla and unleash him on Aomori, Akita, and Iwate.
I purchase another Godzilla and unleash him on Shimane, Hiroshima, and Yamaguchi.
I use my King Ghidorah to conquer Saga, Nagasaki, and Okinawa, with the additional 2 countries being Gunma and Nagano.
The 9 gil I obtain from these conquests gives me enough money to purchase a third Godzilla, which I unleash on Kumamoto, Oita, and Miyazaki.
I use one of my remaining Tanks to conquer Kagoshima.

Here's the math:

100 gil balance
+5 gil for start of day
-8 gil warlord fee to Tritoch
-70 gil for 2 Godzillas
+9 gil (at least) for conquering 9 territories with the Godzillas/Ghidoran
-35 gil for another Godzilla
+25 gil from defeating orion
=26 gil remaining

Not enough for Ninjas, sadly.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:20 AM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 10:20 PM #156 of 174
Wow, get a load of that chart.

Congratulations, Tritoch! You got your bro beat in Risk but good!

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:22 AM #157 of 174
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+9 gil (at least) for conquering 9 territories with the Godzillas/Ghidoran.
Not to split hairs, but since my survival depends on it, why do you get 9 gil for this? Has that been going on the whole game and I just never noticed? There's nothing about gil for territory in the rules.

EDIT: I have to go to work, so I'll post some attacks just in case. In the event they're futile, kudos to the survivors. Third place is nothing to sneeze at, after all!

Tanks to Kagoshima, attacks to Ehime, Koichi, Okinawa, and Yamaguchi. Use all remaining Energy Tanks.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:33 AM #158 of 174
I haven't been following the monetary transactions in this game, but in my games I've always given gil every time a country is taken, whether by standard attack or by item.

Wow, looking at the wiki, I can't believe I never added a line to mention how gil is earned. I'm sure I've addressed it in previous games, however, and like I said, that's always the way it's been.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:34 AM #159 of 174
Yeah, I didn't realize we got money if we conquered a territory using items.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:35 AM #160 of 174
Sigh. Fine, I'll dig through my old posts, but that's how it's always been done. It's just never been an issue before.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:37 AM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 10:37 PM #161 of 174
I confirm nuttyturnip's assertion. He's always awarded money for countries conquered through items. I'm surprised Tritoch doesn't know about this, seeing as how he's been playing since game 1.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:39 AM #162 of 174
Here we go.

This is from Game 2, the second/third game where I introduced gil, and I clarified it for those who hadn't played the Serious Business version:

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Your current gil total can be found underneath your name on the Excel chart, and you earn one gil for each territory acquired (through battle, annexation or items) and each successful defense.


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Old Aug 24, 2007, 12:07 PM #163 of 174
I confirm nuttyturnip's assertion. He's always awarded money for countries conquered through items. I'm surprised Tritoch doesn't know about this, seeing as how he's been playing since game 1.
It's more that I forgot several games ago, and have been wondering about it for quite awhile. It was just never enough of a concern to ask.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 02:45 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 01:45 PM #164 of 174
The one factor that rode on nutty's victory was the fact that King Ghidorah actually obeyed him, for once. That was one hell of a 50/50.

orion_mk3 is knocked out of the game, player number 10 eliminated. nuttyturnip gets 33 gil and 2 Energy Boosts as spoils (the 8 gil tribute is not taken because Tritoch is a Daimyo by the end of Day 5) and is now a Shogun. Tritoch has been demoted to a regular person.

Now, it is the battle of primacy between the two brothers.

WHO WILL JAPAN BOW DOWN TO?

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 02:51 PM #165 of 174
So how much gil do I have now? If I have enough, I'd like Ninjas, please.

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The chart says I've got 48 gil, so I'll assume I can purchase Ninjas. I'll use the 4 Energy Boosts that I possess today as well, giving me 12 attacks (if I have more, please let me know). Therefore, I'll attack the below countries, and since Tritoch's got an Idol against him today, we won't have to wait on his numbers.

1. Northern Hokkaido
2. Southern Hokkaido
3. Yamagata
4. Miyagi
5. Fukushima
6. Niigata
7. Fukuoka
8. Kyoto
9. Osaka
10. Fukui
11. Mie
12. Gifu

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 03:12 PM #166 of 174
Haha, this is exactly how I thought things would really go once I ran out of money, except I was betting on Orion. I might've managed to do more last night if I hadn't been dead tired and passed out well before midnight.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 03:16 PM #167 of 174
Orion didn't have enough money to turn on you (or really me either). He could have made a dent, and made me focus on taking him out instead of giving me the chance to turn on you. If he'd used his gil to summon Gamera last night, he would have had too many countries for me to wipe him out.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 03:18 PM #168 of 174
That's what I was hoping would happen. Sigh.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 08:43 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 07:43 PM #169 of 174
Tritoch made a rout on nuttyturnips forces and captured Aichi

In a thirst for revenge, nuttyturnip threw his entire forces against the Tritoch military machine and captured Southern Hokkaido, Yamagata, Miyagi, Fukushima, Niigata, Fukuoka, Kyoto, Osaka, and Fukui. Such is the combined power of Ninja swearing their fealty to their Shogun.
But . . . Northern Hokkaido, Mie, and Gifu still remain in Tritoch's now decimated territory.

As for items, nutty has 2 Tanks remaining and Tritoch has 1. Use them wisely.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:11 PM #170 of 174
Okay... Now it's time for my counterattack that is most likely completely pointless anyway, but I'll keep this close!

First I enlist the services of the mighty Godzilla one last time. My scaly friend is going to unleash his wrath upon Niigata, Gunma, and Nagano. That puts me back up to Daimyo status.

Next I'll use my current tank to take Fukui.

With the funds acquired from those conquests, I'll buy another tank and use it on Shizuoka. This grants me my title of Shogun once again. Even if I'm destined to lose at this point, I do love fancy titles.

Now then, time for my attacks. Even if they're random my Daimyo bonus should help a bit.

-Yamagata
- Fukushima
- Shiga
- Kyoto


I shall not go quietly into the night!

Spoiler:
Although I think it's mathematically impossible for me to win at the moment.

...And yes, I watched Independence Day last night.


There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:33 PM #171 of 174
I'll launch my final 2 tanks on Ibaraki and Tochigi.

Dullenplain's already got my numbers for the day. I've got 29 gil right now (after the Tanks); one more and I can afford Mothra's services. Therefore, as long as I win one of Tritoch's attacks, I'll launch Mothra at Ishikawa, Toyama, Fukui, Yamanashi, and Nagano. If by some miracle I don't get anymore gil, I purchase a Gamera one final time and launch him at Ishikawa and Toyama.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:35 PM #172 of 174
You and your giant turtles. I don't think any of that is even necessary though. You seem to be ahead at the moment by a single country even if all four of my attacks succeed. Stop fighting moth wars.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:45 PM #173 of 174
But it's no fun if I don't use all my ammo. Can't leave any around for poor Japanese schoolchildren to put an eye out with.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 09:58 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 08:58 PM #174 of 174
Tritoch wins Yamagata but not the rest

nuttyturnip's Tank and Mothra attack demoted Tritoch into nothing more than a well-landed citizen, but the Shogun won't let it stand for long and demanded Tritoch swear fealty under him.

Welcome to the nuttyturnip Shogunate!

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