[General Discussion] Games that are supposed to be really good but you hate

So today I stopped by GameFAQs and recalled that they had some kind of "best series ever" contest. I remember voting once or twice when I happened to be at the site, and was amused by the progression of the contest.

I was quite surprised to see that Legend of Zelda won. Even though it was decided based on the mob rule of a bunch of silly kids, I thought to myself, man, Zelda games suck ass.

I don't like Zelda games, I find them to be silly and also boring and not very deep. I have tried out a few of them and never got in to them.

Another game series I dislike that is supposed to be excellent is Ace Combat. I have tried out both Ace Combat 4 and 5, and found myself bored out of my wits right from the very beginning. Of course, according to some people, Ace Combat is LEGENDARY and all that stuff. I just don't enjoy it. I'd rather play Rogue Squadron or something.

But these are the games that have a lot of fans and get good reviews, so maybe I'm just retarded. I don't know. But I'm sure some of you dislike some "good" games as well, so I'd like to know what they are.

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Well I just dislike the fps genre in particular so I don't know if it counts, but Halo and Halo 2 I totally dislike when my friends play it, or make me try to play it. I just can't seem to get into "banshees" or "stickers" or whatever and try to enjoy shooting others.

I also don't quite like the Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior series for some reason. I think it's mostly the battle system that bugs me, but I either like my rpgs cookie cutter or really innovative. I think I just didn't like the battle systems in them for some reason (eg. "Slime A attacks!" "You take 20 damage!")

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I have never played FFT, and I refuse to do so.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I don't know why the fuck people bother with final fantasy. Especially VII and X. Everybody is saying that VII is one of the best rpgs ever, but i just don't see it. Maybe i am retarded aswell. And don't get me started on X. At some points it felt like torture.

Well, XII is out soon, maybe that will change the trend. I doubt it though. Hey Square here is an idea: Why not make the cool real skypirate the main character instead of the 16 year old wannabe skypirate. I don't know, maybe i am getting ahead of myself here, but we'll see.

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I can't say that I hate a game that is very good, but I do believe there are some games that are just, straight up overrated. Halo 2 is overrated. Final Fantasy VII is overrated. Every Madden game that comes out is overrated. I personally think the DMC series is also overrated, as with the MGS series. While I do think there are some genuinely good moments in those games, I just think that it's getting much more attention than it deserves. I'm not saying these games aren't fun, they're just not that good.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The Kingdom Hearts games are absolutely god awful. Those were some of the most mind numbing games I've ever played. And while they certainly weren't the worst games I've played, they were close. Final Fantasy X was also ridiculously bad. I stopped playing before I finished, and so many people yelled at me that I was missing out on the greatest end of all time, a great wrap up to a great story, and beating a great game, that I went and finished the game. And you know what? The story wasn't great, the game wasn't great, and the ending wasn't great, and I hate that so many people actually find it to be so.

I've never been a big fan of Metal Gear or Resident Evil games either, but I don't have an intense dislike for those, I just don't enjoy playing them.

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Any of the Halo games but more specifically Halo 2 . I could play them for a bit with my friends but shortly thereafter got really, really, really bored with them because of the repetitiveness of the kills. And the fact that it's on Xbox bothers me alot.

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Also all of the Final Fantasy games aside from Final Fantasy Tactics.

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I still don't understand what people see in MGS3. I still love MGS1, but 2 was a huge disappointment for me, and 3 didn't help at all. MGS is played for the plot and awesome atmosphere, both of which were missing from 3. Where MGS1 at least worked as a (somewhat silly) action thriller, MGS3 was merely a parody of James Bond and other agent films, being neither gripping nor thrilling. The environment was supposed to feel atmospheric, yet I felt nothing. All I saw were trenches which was supposed to look like a jungle, with bits of grass where you could hide. If you tried to hide anywhere else but grass (or a tree trunk), you'd get spotted the moment guards got close enough, no matter what camouflage you used (because outside grass you'd never get the % high enough since, well, you're not in grass).

The mediocre voice acting (decent choice of voices, bad actors) made sure none of the drama engaged any way, and pretty much all of the characters were left very uninteresting and you felt no empathy for them at all. The only characters who I actually liked were Major Zero (who actually had a good actor adding a lot to the character) and to a smaller extent Para-medic. All the other characters seemed either poorly written or poorly acted. Boss was naturally supposed to be the tragic character of the story, but because her voice actress delivered her lines with such lack of any kind of skill, you couldn't feel anything for her.

That's pretty much what bothered me through the whole game. While I disliked MGS2 mostly, it could still thrill and move me in many parts, even if the game let the player down completely towards the end. MGS3 on the other hand only thrilled me once. Everything else was just indifference. I didn't feel any kind of atmosphere in the "jungle", pretty much none of the character were empathic, I felt completely indifferent about every single plot twist that came along, bosses appeared out of nowhere and then blew up without any kind of relevance to the plot, hours of dialogue would pass by without me feeling anything but total indifference. I played through the game, but it was on complete autopilot, something that only happens to me at the very dullest moments in RPGs.

The one time MGS3 thrilled me, was the escape from base in the motorcycle. The music was finally excellent, the setpiece and execution phenomenal. None of the action scenes till then had had that kind of energy and grip, that scene alone managed to bring the same kind of rush as you got from the best moments in MGS1 and 2.

Ok, so the story and characters didn't engage me, there was no music to speak of because the jungle noises were supposed to be atmospheric, whenever there was music in boss battles or such, most of it was as poorly chosen as in Twin Snakes and worst of MGS2. What else people raved about was the gameplay. MGS3 was supposed to be just so amazingly fun to play 24/7 that no one cared how stupid the story was or how bad the voices were. You had so much fun doing this and that and replaying the game 60 times and this earned it all those 9.8 scores and game of the year awards.

But if you look at the gameplay, it's just awful =/ If Splinter Cell had been done with these kind of controls, publishers would have laughed it out of the conference room before the demo ended. There is a wide variety of gameplay choices to tackle levels, but only one or two of them were ever really useful and everything else was just too much work and effort for it to be worth it. You could spend two hours slowly sneaking through an area with three enemies patrolling, remaining unspotted, till at the very last moment, you got spotted because the shitty camera wouldn't let you look around well enough (and neither of the two radars proved useful at all). An alarm sounds, you hide in a tree trunk, or if it's an enclosed building, kill everyone. It was simply easier and less effort to simply shoot or put everyone to sleep than try any proper stealth because being aware of your surroundings was a chore at best and the controls were clumsy as hell at worst.
Subsistence tried to fix this with the rotatable camera, but in the end didn't really improve that much when hiding in grass or trying to sneak up to a guard (good luck with that).

The fact remains, with any lesser name game, the controls would have been deemed broken. Anyone will tell me I was simply crap at the game, and this could be true. I wasn't however crap at MGS1 or even 2, yet they had issues with control too. I can "learn" to play Tenchu: Fatal Shadows (which I enjoyad a lot) or Shinobido, but that doesn't make their controls any less broken. This is the same thing with MGS3. All it did was cause even the gameplay between the cutscenes to stop being any fun and staying an utter chore, outside that brilliant, brilliant motorcycle chase.

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Call of Duty series.


It takes like 15 shots in kill someone, you can't get a clean hit while running which is pretty stupid considering that if they did leave the retical when you did start to run, you would probably get the kill, and the Germans go absolutely beserk trying to kill you with their rifle as soon as you get close enough. WHY ARE THEY GOING SO FAST?!

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There's a couple: First of all, KotOR is a simply awful game. Bleh story, and extremely simplistic and dumbed down combat.

Also, even though I can't say they're horrible, I've never been able to play MGS or any 3D Zelda.

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I'm going to agree with one of the above posters and say Final Fantasy. I really don't enjoy RPGs as it is but I never understood the gigantic circle jerk over these games. I played FF VII and wanted to hurl. I didn't even bother finishing it. I got to the gigantic enemy snake, quickly shut the power off, and never played again.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I have always disliked both Halo 1 and 2. I've always hated the fact that you run and jump like if you were in a big tub of molasses, and that you can only hold two weapons at a time.

The single player mode also has some of the most boring FPS levels I have ever played. In most of the levels all of the rooms and corridors look so similar that I couldn't tell which way to go after I got into a fight, and I would just have to pick a arbitary direction to go, and turn around if I found any dead bodies or couldn't find any new enemies.

The Xbox versions are even worse because FPS simply do not work with controllers.

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I really can't stand many first person shooter games like Halo,Red Faction,etc., etc.

But games like Metriod Prime I can play and have fun.
And the only other games I don't like are the Zelda's on the gba. They are so hard to get into it isn't funny. Oh and the first Fullmetal Alchemist game also wasn't as good as the press made it seem.(man it was bad)

I was speaking idiomatically.

I totally don't like MSG series, maybe because I'm not born to play hide and seek games.

For FF, it's a pain in the ass if you're trying to play the 2nd round because you can't skip the story especially FF VII, u have to see cloud walking around and flying around in spirit mode, that really get me piss off.

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FF7 for all the reasons above, imo it's so biggu because it was the first real 3d rpg to come over to the western world.

Another one are the mario games, they are fine and all, I just never found them fun. Ive always been more of a Sonic guy really (old games still rule any Mario game out there imo ^______^).

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So wait, basically this is an "overated games that you hate" thread? I'd have to say Perfect Dark Zero, but I dont think that has a large enough fanbase. Everyone knew it sucked.

Also Guilty Gear. It's okay. Mediocre. I find a lot of the gameplay concepts really hard to grasp, and even then the actual gameplay bores me. The atmosphere has a certain feel and style to it though, and the music is excellent. But, still not great. =/

Another one, especially on these boards. FFT. Why does everyone praise the story? The dialogue is terrible, disregarding the mistranslations. Chapter 1 was interesting simply because they brought in various political forces such as the class systems in society. Too bad it all went down the drain when you first fight that zodiac demon or whatever. It felt way too much like a fairytale near the end instead of a story that was meant to be dark. (And I like how there are some who praise the story mainly because the church is made into some filthy, devious "organization" hell bent on control or earth's destruction or whatever--it wasn't even done well, IMO.) And Ramza's terrible "noble and heroic" archetype just pissed me off in the darker parts of the game. Delita's rise to power was mildly interesting, but his corruption was easily foreseeable. Fuck, you want a real story, go play Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together. Most of the development team worked on both games, but TO actually kicks ass.

And don't even get me started on the gameplay. Terribly unbalanced. What, Math Skill CT5 Holy 2x and you've won the fucking boss battle. Or whore out Orlandu. What a joke.

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You had so much fun doing this and that and replaying the game 60 times and this earned it all those 9.8 scores and game of the year awards.

Didn't MGS3 actually have the worst overall sales of all three games? =/ (But yeah it did win quite a bit of awards)

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I was quite surprised to see that Legend of Zelda won. Even though it was decided based on the mob rule of a bunch of silly kids, I thought to myself, man, Zelda games suck ass.

Thank god i'm not alone on this one. I tried getting into the one on the SNES (or whatever console it was) and the GBA. The gameplay is repetitive and the story doesn't help. It baffles me, how exactly did this game gain the recognition that it did? was it because it was easy to get into or something?

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No matter how I much I try, I can't bring myself to enjoy the Mario platformers. I know they're supposed to be great and all, but I can't stand them. They just aren't any fun. I love the Mario RPGs, however.

The Kingdom Hearts games are boring as well. I like both Square and Disney properties, but gameplay doesn't keep me entertained for long.

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Originally Posted by Syphex

Thank god i'm not alone on this one. I tried getting into the one on the SNES (or whatever console it was) and the GBA. The gameplay is repetitive and the story doesn't help. It baffles me, how exactly did this game gain the recognition that it did? was it because it was easy to get into or something?

If you have never played Ocarina of Time, then go figure.

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Originally Posted by NoWittyComment

No matter how I much I try, I can't bring myself to enjoy the Mario platformers. I know they're supposed to be great and all, but I can't stand them. They just aren't any fun. I love the Mario RPGs, however.

I'm curious - what games did you play at first, then? I know there are plenty of other old games and genres, but the Mario platformers tend to be the ones everyone plays and gets hooked on.

Originally Posted by NoWittyComment

The Kingdom Hearts games are boring as well. I like both Square and Disney properties, but gameplay doesn't keep me entertained for long.

I almost completely agree. I don't really care for Disney games. I can't think of a single one I enjoyed. I'm not a huge fan of Square anymore, either. Heh.

Super Smash Brothers suuuuuuucks aaaaassss. The gameplay isn't my thing at all.

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The SMB games were some of the first games I played, but I also played Shinobi and some other games on the Master System, which I thought were much more exciting.

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Zelda: Majora's Mask - I think it was the worst in the Nintendo developed Zelda games.

Shenmue - I don't know what to say about it other than "yawn".

Xenosaga - first game I fell asleep playing... or watching... I can't remember.

Doom 3 and Kingdom Hearts get honorable mention.

I was speaking idiomatically.

i've played shenmue a bit but it just gets boring and doesn't seem to go anywhere. the only zelda game i've really enjoyed was OOT, the others are just boring. and football games are extremely over-rated. the only sports games i like are some tennis games

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FFX - kept me going for a bit simply due to pretty graphics, but other than that? It was pretty... not so special I thought.

Spyro & Gecko (i think that's what it's called...) - something about those type of games just makes me so fustrated and hatefull against them despite the cute little creatures that reside quietly in the game :\

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Originally Posted by Eiolon

Zelda: Majora's Mask - I think it was the worst in the Nintendo developed Zelda games.

Absolutely.

Most recent disappointment of the 'so this is supposed to be good?' variety was God of War. I wrote what I disliked about it elsewhere in these forums not too long ago. Long story short, Devil May Cry did it better, with a FAR more likable lead and without blatant pandering to self-absorbed adolescents who came merely for blood and boobs.

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I really found it hard to like any of Donkey Kong or Diddy Kong's Nintendo 64 ventures. Maybe it's just me? I did enjoy the SNES games, though.

Donkey Kong 64 just frustrated me. The controls were kind of annoying, and the characters never seemed to jump (or rather, do anything) properly. I found it to be a chore to play, but everyone else sure seems to like it.

Diddy Kong Racing seemed like fun at first, but I didn't really like any of the tracks, the characters are more or less hideous, and the gameplay was, well, not so great. I thought the idea of choosing between a cart, a plane, and a hovercraft was cool, but you were likely to lose if you didn't pick the cart.

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